the golden visionary
Player Valuation: £35m
Perfectly entitled to your opinion mate. I think we will come good again at some point. If its good enough for top 6 great stuff were in eutope. If not, theres always next year
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Match Thread Everton V Manchester City - Preview, Match Report and MotM Poll
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Perfectly entitled to your opinion mate. I think we will come good again at some point. If its good enough for top 6 great stuff were in eutope. If not, theres always next year
the golden visionary
Player Valuation: £35m
They never have. I blame goodison
Liamliverpool86
Player Valuation: £8m
Am not a fan of saying this ... but carlo got it wrong taking davies off , second goal looked like it was his fault but he was marking rodri i think then godfrey and digne just didn't have a clue and tom still tried to stop the shot after he was already covering the player .. and TBH he was out only midfielder first half who had a bit of control about him
Daytripper
Player Valuation: £40m
Games are already lost before a ball is kicked, again. Yes we are not at the level City are, very few are...
So what?
What is the point of turning up if the mentality is to feel it’s lost before the match has started? I’ll never understand that. It’s a game of football. Quality levels differ but desire, ambition and determination should not. First half I thought we showed some determination at least.
The last quarter of that game tho, was like a training session for them, far too easy for them to make one/two touch passes and honestly i was cheesed off because it was getting belittling.
This kind of thing has happened far too often in the past. It’s a vicious circle.
So what?
What is the point of turning up if the mentality is to feel it’s lost before the match has started? I’ll never understand that. It’s a game of football. Quality levels differ but desire, ambition and determination should not. First half I thought we showed some determination at least.
The last quarter of that game tho, was like a training session for them, far too easy for them to make one/two touch passes and honestly i was cheesed off because it was getting belittling.
This kind of thing has happened far too often in the past. It’s a vicious circle.
the golden visionary
Player Valuation: £35m
Id ignore tge Everton stuff and concentrate on the part where he undermined citys performance. Which was poetry. I missed it live but still had it recorded so just finished it. What a team
We've hit our bad patch again.
And we are hit by injuries? We have one injury right now in DCL ffa.
Bullens Rd
Player Valuation: £35m
All in all a pitiful effort against a team who didn't need to get our of first gear.
Most of us with our heads screwed on knew what was in store for us tonight, but it still doesn't make it easier seeing our expensively-assembled group of flops have rings run around them by Manchester City players who knew they only needed to turn up to take the three points home with them - funnily enough exactly what our players thought when we played at Goodison against Leeds, Newcastle, West Ham and Fulham, yet the opposite happened to our over-confident but far-too-lazy group and we managed to muster a grand total of zero goals in four games, at home, against teams you can describe as "will finish in the bottom half" at best - WHU aside.
Anyway, tonight, we got what we deserved and I genuinely think Ancelotti will see it as a good result in the grand scheme of things because the result actually should have been more to reflect the true dominance they had over us from, well, let's be honest, before the game even started.
To think we spent £100m on Iwobi, Sigurdsson and Pickford is enough to make a grown man cry. When we finish 10th-12th this season, Carlo will have two things to blame: the board for not backing him properly in the summer, and his own stubbornness to continue playing Sigurdsson and Pickford. Just what was he thinking throwing Pickford back in at his earliest convenience? Lo and behold he comes back and is single-handedly responsible for two of the three goals we conceded. And yet he'll play again against Liverpool and probably cost us another few.
Well we still won't fix this squad in the summer because there is simply too much wrong with it and it will cost far too much. So that'll have been three transfer windows and the job will have been half done at best. How long is Carlo sticking around? By summer 2022 he might finally have a squad that he is happy with, then we're pinning our hopes on it all clicking instantly to push us into Europe. If not he's been here three years and we're no better off, position-wise, than we started off. Let's be honest, if you're finishing outside Europe, not getting anywhere close to silverware, there isn't any difference apart from a few million between finishing 10th and finishing 16th. Who cares?
As I thought after the Fulham game, this is going to be a very sad and painful week for the club. The worst is yet to come imo.
Most of us with our heads screwed on knew what was in store for us tonight, but it still doesn't make it easier seeing our expensively-assembled group of flops have rings run around them by Manchester City players who knew they only needed to turn up to take the three points home with them - funnily enough exactly what our players thought when we played at Goodison against Leeds, Newcastle, West Ham and Fulham, yet the opposite happened to our over-confident but far-too-lazy group and we managed to muster a grand total of zero goals in four games, at home, against teams you can describe as "will finish in the bottom half" at best - WHU aside.
Anyway, tonight, we got what we deserved and I genuinely think Ancelotti will see it as a good result in the grand scheme of things because the result actually should have been more to reflect the true dominance they had over us from, well, let's be honest, before the game even started.
To think we spent £100m on Iwobi, Sigurdsson and Pickford is enough to make a grown man cry. When we finish 10th-12th this season, Carlo will have two things to blame: the board for not backing him properly in the summer, and his own stubbornness to continue playing Sigurdsson and Pickford. Just what was he thinking throwing Pickford back in at his earliest convenience? Lo and behold he comes back and is single-handedly responsible for two of the three goals we conceded. And yet he'll play again against Liverpool and probably cost us another few.
Well we still won't fix this squad in the summer because there is simply too much wrong with it and it will cost far too much. So that'll have been three transfer windows and the job will have been half done at best. How long is Carlo sticking around? By summer 2022 he might finally have a squad that he is happy with, then we're pinning our hopes on it all clicking instantly to push us into Europe. If not he's been here three years and we're no better off, position-wise, than we started off. Let's be honest, if you're finishing outside Europe, not getting anywhere close to silverware, there isn't any difference apart from a few million between finishing 10th and finishing 16th. Who cares?
As I thought after the Fulham game, this is going to be a very sad and painful week for the club. The worst is yet to come imo.
JLW
Player Valuation: £60m
The game went as i pretty much expected.
Im glad this is done with and we shouldn't be too downbeat as they are an exceptional side and will make top European sides look like mugs.
One thing about last night was when we decided to go forward we got to their box relatively easy which just didn't do it often enough, also Iwobi shouldn't of been taken off, he was our most effective player getting us up the pitch.
Im glad this is done with and we shouldn't be too downbeat as they are an exceptional side and will make top European sides look like mugs.
One thing about last night was when we decided to go forward we got to their box relatively easy which just didn't do it often enough, also Iwobi shouldn't of been taken off, he was our most effective player getting us up the pitch.
Jimmy Grimble
Player Valuation: £20m
More or less what Carlo said. Is right
arbok
Player Valuation: £15m
I only watched the highlights, the first goal was bad defending, but the other two are just top quality goals, when was the last time we saw Everton with that movement? We're good on the counter attack, but most teams are. Man City were able to break down Everton so easily between the lines.
Probably never going to win that one, so im glad that's out of the way now.
Probably never going to win that one, so im glad that's out of the way now.
gonetomorrow
Player Valuation: £70m
Digne could do with a break. I'd like to see Nkounkou given a go.
davids
Player Valuation: £70m
I agree with a lot of your post but I've a feeling finance comes into it, Obviously he's his own man but dropping Pickford for the rest of the season will be detrimental to any sell on value which would have a knock on effect to the amount he would have available to spend in the Summer. Having one hand tied behind your back as a manager must be so frustrating.
Milk
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No but if we'd played them when we were meant to - when they were struggling for form & had a few covid cases (that's all gone very quiet BTW - never hear of teams with cases nowadays?), we had a much better chance even with the players out. Still would've lost though
The point about the last quarter is spot on - carlo messed up with those subs - you can’t have james and siggy as two of your three in the middle against the likes of city - you’ve got no legs to even get the ball back - they’re too good to hope they’re just going to give you the ball back through an errant pass.
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