Not the first time we've exited this competition weakly at this stage and probably wont be the last. Meh.
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Match Thread EVERTON V SOUTHAMPTON Match thread, Report and MotM Poll
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overkill
Player Valuation: £20m
Why are we defending the rotation, suddenly starting several players who havnt played for a while (and some not good enough for this level) and expecting them to beat a team in the same league as us.
There was no need for Pickford, Gueye, Sigs, Walcott and Richarlerson to all be rotated.
I think the team that played Fulham on Saturday wins that game.
There was no need for Pickford, Gueye, Sigs, Walcott and Richarlerson to all be rotated.
I think the team that played Fulham on Saturday wins that game.
StateSideToffee
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Whaaaaaaat?! Winning this cup satisfies your point No. 3.
So, you're telling me getting this final and beating, say Arsenal, Chelsea, RS, Spurs, Citeh or Manure wouldn't give you ANY fan satisfaction?!
Yes; that is precisely what I am saying. I want us to compete with and beat the best, and most talented teams.
When the best teams don’t play their best squad unless they make the semifinal, it drastically impacts the quality of the football on display and subsequently the quality of the competition as a whole; as such, Everton winning this competition would not give me any satisfaction as a fan.
Winning this cup is not an indication to the fan base, other teams, or quality players from other teams that Everton is a quality club with great aspirations and a feasible likelihood that those dreams will come to fruition.
If deciding between a season that ends with:
1. This cup win and nothing else of note.
2. EPL 5th place finish and nothing else of note.
I’d bite your hand off for the 5th place finish.
So you didn't want Bernard to play? And you'd have been happy to start DCL instead of Tosun?
Look, I think there were two or three changes too many. But it's not down to that, not solely anyway.
Also, unless you're a sports scientist who works closely with Everton, you have no idea at all what condition the players are in and if they need to be rested or not. The turnaround for the game yesterday was the same as a home match in the Europa League would be, as well.
everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
I only live 25 miles away and could have got in for £10 but did not bother because I do not think the League Cup is worth the trouble. That probably applies to a high percentage of the company on this forum including those expressing dismay and fume. Good on those who went and did make the effort. Not bothered at all by the defeat and look forward to the Leicester game which will be difficult and great to win.
..whilst it’s an individual decision whether to attend the match or not, I do find it surprising that any Evertonian is ‘not bothered by the defeat at all’, especially given the opportunity we had to progress in a cup competition.
Cameron Manning
Player Valuation: £35m
Arnold is a very good player, playing in a very good settled team, put Jonjo in a good settled team he would be getting rave notices as well, not saying Kenny is as good as Arnold Trent, but he is going to be an excellent player for Everton
and maybe a future captain of the club, the more he plays the more vocal he will get, don't underrate Kenny's ability he will get better and better the more he plays.
Toast
Player Valuation: £80m
marcus
Player Valuation: £15m
Ahh yes, I forgot about our annual FA cup game
Marius57
Player Valuation: £60m
It’s not worth getting into discussion with the OP about. Repeatedly said that people not there aren’t supporters of the club and therefore shouldn’t get to comment. Has prior for it as well. Which is odd as he/she spends their time on a forum, commenting about a team they say they support that they aren’t bothering to go and watch when they live so close (only 25 miles did you know).
SteRobbo84
Player Valuation: Two Pokémon cards & a Pepperami
Each to their own and all that, but these views are pathetic in my opinion. To say that seeing us win our first trophy in 24 years would not provide satisfaction or say that you're not bothered at all by the defeat is absolutely mind boggling to me.
diggerdestroyer
Player Valuation: £40m
Promising young players getting game time. Not currently. We need to start winning matches first. And for a period of time. Until then no. Strongest 11 out in every match possible.
Stan Lee Park
Player Valuation: £20m
So wrong, I'm afraid. forget the penalties, we needed to win this game in 90 minutes. Silva picked a weak side (at least 6 first team players missing) and it all went wrong .
StateSideToffee
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Alright, perhaps you’re right; let me revise. I care about the EFL Cup results about as much as I care about the U23 league. It’s nice to see success but ultimately those results don’t make much of a difference to me. In fact, I probably care a little more about the U23 league given it promotes future 1st team player development. So yes; you’re right, I do care, just not very much, and when compared to other more relevant competitions it is the lowest priority.
As far as the Trophy statement; who cares? I want trophies that mean something; That stand as a tribute to exceptional teams deserving of recognition. I imagine myself getting elated over a trophy in a competition where most of the top sides never even field their starting 11 and it just leaves a sick taste in my mouth. For that to be what breaks our trophy drought would feel like a consolation prize to forever serve as a reminder that we aren’t good enough to compete in real competitions. Overall, the merit of the team’s accomplishments year in and year out in the EPL, FA Cup, and Europe are what I’ll look to as a measure of success; trophies be damned. We’ll win one when we deserve it and have earned it; not because other sides couldn’t be bothered.
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