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Everton v Stoke City. 28th Dec at 1500.

Stoke City

  • Sound

    Votes: 13 5.0%
  • It's near Alton Towers

    Votes: 38 14.5%
  • Mutants

    Votes: 84 32.1%
  • Phil Taylor is an MBE stripped motorhome attacking fat woolly sex pest

    Votes: 65 24.8%
  • We'll probably draw

    Votes: 62 23.7%

  • Total voters
    262
  • Poll closed .
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The only way to prove it was not a pen would be to appeal Stones' card. Even over on the Stoke forum, they're saying it was a massive stroke of luck.

Then again, you make your own luck, and instead of taking the impetus and getting a fourth, we sat back and that happens. We'll finish mid-table this year for that reason, and down to RM's stubborness and in-ability to defend.

I don't want him out, but I would hope he would finally wake up. Unfortunately he doesn't appear to be doing so.

No penalty is still 3-3 at home to Stoke. Wowzas.
 
No penalty is still 3-3 at home to Stoke. Wowzas.

Read my post again. I said we needed to have the impetus to get a fourth and kill the game off. We can't do that and then Howard flaps at the cross and they're back in it

As for it being against Stoke, stop being such a snob. They're equal to us in most departments. Sad reality, but it's true.
 

Lukaku is a good bit ahead in the experience stakes though, remember.

I am not so sure of this mass exodus that people fear, at least not all in the same window, but if they do go its just the way of the game. We will have new youngsters and new players.
Good point. A lot of what I'm saying is to do with the frustration of how good we can be. Imo we have the best spine of a team in the league, with delofeu added to it this season. These players will be good enough to win titles imo and we have to keep them but to keep them they need to start getting into the champions league. This season is an open goal to do that.
 
We go a goal ahead and then lose all our urgency and try to play keep away against stoke? They are master's of counter-attacks. We should have kept pressing. Bullsh_t result today.

We've made every team we've faced this season look like masters of counter attacks... Therein lies the problem, Martinez is not willing to adapt his playing style.
 

MIRALLAS AND LENNON were not injured,and this was a chance to use the squad,martinez has just said

heart breaking no were near good in 1st half,wasnt pen, mccarthy fair up,achilles tendon for cleverley
 
Is cleverly injured? I like him. He had played well recently. Was surprised he didn't start but played well since coming on. Surely had a knock to come off ? Sorry if already commented on.
 

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