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Everton v Stoke City. 28th Dec at 1500.

Stoke City

  • Sound

    Votes: 13 5.0%
  • It's near Alton Towers

    Votes: 38 14.5%
  • Mutants

    Votes: 84 32.1%
  • Phil Taylor is an MBE stripped motorhome attacking fat woolly sex pest

    Votes: 65 24.8%
  • We'll probably draw

    Votes: 62 23.7%

  • Total voters
    262
  • Poll closed .
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....Stoke don't score many goals on their travels.
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forwards are probably even more frustrated when they get no service and chances at all. Like I remember us to be not many years ago.
the defensive stuff though.. really needs to be fixed. probably at cost of our play going forward.
This is exactly it. Its a tough call because under Moyes we were solid. I prefer our current style of play because we're very good going forward. But this calamitous defending is killing us. 7 goals conceded at home to Stoke and Leicester at home is just not on. Teams know we can be got at. I don't think Stoke or Leicester had that many chances but boy were we punished. 3rd goal today left me speechless, and whats worrying is that I wasn't surprised when they got the 4th. Rom was awesome today but finished on the losing team.
 

to add insult to injury Shaqiri's miss hit cross will probably win goal of the month

we were unlucky today, but this has gone on for too long - Martinez is in over his head defensively, it needs to be sorted
 

....not the main problem.
This is exactly it. Its a tough call because under Moyes we were solid. I prefer our current style of play because we're very good going forward. But this calamitous defending is killing us. 7 goals conceded at home to Stoke and Leicester at home is just not on. Teams know we can be got at. I don't think Stoke or Leicester had that many chances but boy were we punished. 3rd goal today left me speechless, and whats worrying is that I wasn't surprised when they got the 4th. Rom was awesome today but finished on the losing team.

Can you have both? Under RM it appears not - can another manager achieve that?
 
There was a noticeable difference in how both teams reacted to losing possession. It wasn't even tactical really. It was just effort to get back. Kone for example just isn't arsed in getting back, and when he does he causes havoc and assists the opposition. It appears to be a real mentality thing, in that we don't have the desire to bust a gut in the opposite direction and don't have a fear of conceding
 

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