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Everton v Stoke City. 28th Dec at 1500.

Stoke City

  • Sound

    Votes: 13 5.0%
  • It's near Alton Towers

    Votes: 38 14.5%
  • Mutants

    Votes: 84 32.1%
  • Phil Taylor is an MBE stripped motorhome attacking fat woolly sex pest

    Votes: 65 24.8%
  • We'll probably draw

    Votes: 62 23.7%

  • Total voters
    262
  • Poll closed .
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How. Frustrating.


Bottom line: I feel the only reason Martinez isn't under an immense amount of pressure if the fact that we are still in the league cup. If that avenue to silverware wasn't still available then all of these poor results would trigger an uproar - from fans and players alike.
He had the Europa excuse the other year. He simply can't coach a defence, that much is obvious
 
The Ref was unsure if it was a pen his hesitation confimed that so in that case if he is not sure he should not give it but that fella has such a big [Poor language removed] ego there always has to be a moment in a game he is in charge of were the spotlight has to be on him
if it was the linesman on the far side that piped up in his ear piece that makes it even more ridiculous he was twice the distance away but that would not surprise me all day long he was taking the p!ss putting his flag up late

No sour grapes though Stoke were a better team than us just like Leicester were i have stopped listening to Roberto's post match Rubbish !!
 

Pen is irrelevant.

We'd already conceded 3 goals at home, again

To Stoke.
Exactly. And 3 in the previous home game to Leicester. Stoke 3rd today was shambolic defending by us. Mori tries to clear with his left foot which allows Stoke forward to block his clearance. Then Howard's attempt to palm away the cross is pathetic. So, I agree that the 4th, whilst a harsh pen, is the final nail in the coffin of a woeful defensive performance at home (again!!).
 
Exactly. And 3 in the previous home game to Leicester. Stoke 3rd today was shambolic defending by us. Mori tries to clear with his left foot which allows Stoke forward to block his clearance. Then Howard's attempt to palm away the cross is pathetic. So, I agree that the 4th, whilst a harsh pen, is the final nail in the coffin of a woeful defensive performance at home (again!!).

While your goalkeeper is the last line of defence there a plenty of opportunities for all those attacks to have been stopped..

The wonder goal for example, the insistence on pushing the full backs so far up the pitch left a massive hole which the little Swiss beaut ran into.

The entire defensive operation needs to be reviewed
 
While your goalkeeper is the last line of defence there a plenty of opportunities for all those attacks to have been stopped..

The wonder goal for example, the insistence on pushing the full backs so far up the pitch left a massive hole which the little Swiss beaut ran into.

The entire defensive operation needs to be reviewed
It does, it should have been for a while now. 19 goals conceded at home this season. 9 goals conceded away. How does that work. And you're right about Shaqiri's second goal. Bad pass by Stones, one good ball by Bojan and Galloway is two yards behind because he's up the pitch. One minute from HT. Got to be managers orders that.
 

Conversely i think the Kone inclusion worked well even though he squandered a few opportunities
Only one who thought that then mate, me and everyone around me were crying at how narrow he played and how little he did to cover whatever side he was taking ownership of. Unbelievable that he stayed on the entire 90.
 
There is more to defending than just your back Four. We need a complete change in how we go about playing the game. Attacking with 7/8 players in the opposition half at this level is suicidal. If your playing with Gerry in your side you don't need coleman bombing on. if ross is bossing possession you don't need you holding midfield player on the oppositions 18 yd line. But the most important thing is you can't sit off and give good sides time and space on the ball. Our lack of pressure on the football when the oppo have it is again suicidal at this level.
Stop talking sense you utter bell
 

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