Match Thread Everton v Wolves - Preview, Match Report and MotM Poll

[Mugwump]

In response to signs of crowing or over optimism by Wolves geezers on here, I am glad you are back in the top league and good luck to you (except on Saturday) . Ambition for the title is very laudable, but utterly unrealistic in the modern age. (ignore Leicester as my crystal ball says it will never happen again). However have a little humility when you consider you have been the best part of 2 decades (?) out of the top division. Such an experience is unknown to us at Everton. We may be ragged around the edges like our ground is, but we are a proper top league club and playing outside it is a distant memory of old men (like me). As I said welcome back to "the big time", or at least to the lower levels of the big time.

I'll risk the ire of people on here, and i hope people on here dont see this as me having a dig because its not, but you are just one of a number of clubs who are just also rans in this league now. Everton, just like us, are fighting for 7th place at best, and are a fair way from breaking the top 4. Your history, just like ours, is irrelevant these days. Its been 39 years since we won a major trophy, and 25? years for you guys? It shapes who we are as clubs, but it means very little in the scheme of things these days.

I'm not sure how anyone is going to consistently break into that top 4 battle. I dont really know how your owners operate, or how much financial backing they are providing, but from the outside looking in considering you are such an established club you dont seem to be attracting many top class footballers. You could probably enlighten me as to why that is. Cant quite work out if you fella's think Silva is a good manager or you want him gone! You seem to spend plenty, but it doesn't seem to be getting you where i'd guess you are expecting to be so probably your recruitment is an issue? Everton would be a club club we would have been looking to aspire to tbh, but i think we have already got to your level this season. I dont think its a lack of humility for us to be confident in what we are capable of achieving, but there is no doubt its still early days for us.

What i do know is our owners are openly ambitious, have huge amounts of money to spend ( which also doesnt mean a great deal unless we can get creative with FFP or somebody gets it abolished ) and we have some great connections through Mendes I dont actually think at the moment from what i have seen this season, we are that far away from the likes of United and Arsenal. We are a lot better than some on here think we are, but at the same time we are only 7th for a reason, and thats because we are inconsitent. What we probably need is a couple more players like Moutinho, who tbh has been an absolute revelation, to give us that consistency we need to kick on. It wouldn't surprise me if we put 3 past you or if we got beaten 2-0, and i'd say thats the same for a lot of clubs in and around us.

 

[Hibbo]

 

[Mugwump]

It's a bit sad really isn't it!

 

[GwladysBlue]

It’s funny reading that Wolves’ forum. They think they’re some powerhouse in waiting.

 

[Mugwump]

It’s funny reading that Wolves’ forum. They think they’re some powerhouse in waiting.

We are!

In all honesty though, the thing that will probably stop us and sides like yourself breaking into the top 4 and really challenging is FFP. We have ridiculously rich owners, one of them by himself is worth over 7 billion, and they are football mad. If they could they would buy their way to success. You can't do that anymore. If you could I'm sure you would have seen a lot more quality at our club and probably others as well.

 

[Kenshin]

I'll risk the ire of people on here, and i hope people on here dont see this as me having a dig because its not, but you are just one of a number of clubs who are just also rans in this league now. Everton, just like us, are fighting for 7th place at best, and are a fair way from breaking the top 4. Your history, just like ours, is irrelevant these days. Its been 39 years since we won a major trophy, and 25? years for you guys? It shapes who we are as clubs, but it means very little in the scheme of things these days.

I'm not sure how anyone is going to consistently break into that top 4 battle. I dont really know how your owners operate, or how much financial backing they are providing, but from the outside looking in considering you are such an established club you dont seem to be attracting many top class footballers. You could probably enlighten me as to why that is. Cant quite work out if you fella's think Silva is a good manager or you want him gone! You seem to spend plenty, but it doesn't seem to be getting you where i'd guess you are expecting to be so probably your recruitment is an issue? Everton would be a club club we would have been looking to aspire to tbh, but i think we have already got to your level this season. I dont think its a lack of humility for us to be confident in what we are capable of achieving, but there is no doubt its still early days for us.

What i do know is our owners are openly ambitious, have huge amounts of money to spend ( which also doesnt mean a great deal unless we can get creative with FFP or somebody gets it abolished ) and we have some great connections through Mendes I dont actually think at the moment from what i have seen this season, we are that far away from the likes of United and Arsenal. We are a lot better than some on here think we are, but at the same time we are only 7th for a reason, and thats because we are inconsitent. What we probably need is a couple more players like Moutinho, who tbh has been an absolute revelation, to give us that consistency we need to kick on. It wouldn't surprise me if we put 3 past you or if we got beaten 2-0, and i'd say thats the same for a lot of clubs in and around us.

I was saying to a friend the other day I can see wolves establishing themselves alongside Everton in the league before long. You have a good manager, have a conveyor belt of mendes players to come in and the profit you will make selling them on could make a huge difference. Early days for wolves but there is real potential there by the owners.

 

[Mugwump]

I was saying to a friend the other day I can see wolves establishing themselves alongside Everton in the league before long. You have a good manager, have a conveyor belt of mendes players to come in and the profit you will make selling them on could make a huge difference. Early days for wolves but there is real potential there by the owners.

Thanks mate. This season kind of hasn't really surprised me. Its next year we have to step it up. Like I said, I think we have to aspire to become like Everton in terms of usually becoming the best side outside the top 4-5.

Must admit, I expected you guys to be above Arsenal bringing in Silva this year

 

[maccavennie]

It would be lovely to win and make it two on the bounce.

Good side Wolves though so can't see us winning as we don't look in any way shape or form like performances are gonna suddenly click.

Keep it tight, if we get a chance or two and take them then you never know but I think it will be a 1-1 draw or 2-1 defeat.

 

[TyphooToffee]

I'll risk the ire of people on here, and i hope people on here dont see this as me having a dig because its not, but you are just one of a number of clubs who are just also rans in this league now. Everton, just like us, are fighting for 7th place at best, and are a fair way from breaking the top 4. Your history, just like ours, is irrelevant these days. Its been 39 years since we won a major trophy, and 25? years for you guys? It shapes who we are as clubs, but it means very little in the scheme of things these days.

I'm not sure how anyone is going to consistently break into that top 4 battle. I dont really know how your owners operate, or how much financial backing they are providing, but from the outside looking in considering you are such an established club you dont seem to be attracting many top class footballers. You could probably enlighten me as to why that is. Cant quite work out if you fella's think Silva is a good manager or you want him gone! You seem to spend plenty, but it doesn't seem to be getting you where i'd guess you are expecting to be so probably your recruitment is an issue? Everton would be a club club we would have been looking to aspire to tbh, but i think we have already got to your level this season. I dont think its a lack of humility for us to be confident in what we are capable of achieving, but there is no doubt its still early days for us.

What i do know is our owners are openly ambitious, have huge amounts of money to spend ( which also doesnt mean a great deal unless we can get creative with FFP or somebody gets it abolished ) and we have some great connections through Mendes I dont actually think at the moment from what i have seen this season, we are that far away from the likes of United and Arsenal. We are a lot better than some on here think we are, but at the same time we are only 7th for a reason, and thats because we are inconsitent. What we probably need is a couple more players like Moutinho, who tbh has been an absolute revelation, to give us that consistency we need to kick on. It wouldn't surprise me if we put 3 past you or if we got beaten 2-0, and i'd say thats the same for a lot of clubs in and around us.

A very good assessment there (the mention of Moutinho conjures up memories of many a transfer window disappointment when we hoped he might come to us). Any right-thinking Blue would say you are spot on.

 

[Mugwump]

A very good assessment there (the mention of Moutinho conjures up memories of many a transfer window disappointment when we hoped he might come to us). Any right-thinking Blue would say you are spot on.

Even at 32 , he is still absolute quality. You can tell he looks after himself, and at 5 million he has been a hell of a bargain. Had a few doubts he could last the season, but he is fine tbh. No ego or anything about him, great team player and influence. How come you never signed him?

 

[Kenshin]

Thanks mate. This season kind of hasn't really surprised me. Its next year we have to step it up. Like I said, I think we have to aspire to become like Everton in terms of usually becoming the best side outside the top 4-5.

Must admit, I expected you guys to be above Arsenal bringing in Silva this year

To be honest where Everton are now is pretty much a reset situation.

Brands taking over as director of football and subsequently on the board as well means we are planning long term..so much like the mendes players at wolves, our aim short term will be to buy cheap sell high. But over the next 5 years I would imagine there will be changes behind the scenes so the team in 5 years will be much better and hopefully much more competitive in the league.

Silva remains the last marker of the previous way of running things. So if he were to go brands would be hiring who he wants. Our owner just wanted Silva a year ago so we can hope he does well but no she could if we sack him.

This season should be a bye though, see how silly does next year before we judge

 

[blue to the bone]

Even at 32 , he is still absolute quality. You can tell he looks after himself, and at 5 million he has been a hell of a bargain. Had a few doubts he could last the season, but he is fine tbh. No ego or anything about him, great team player and influence. How come you never signed him?

@MarcelsGoat . Take this.

 

[Strikinglyhandsome1]

Basically Mugwump we are starting again from scratch.

If we are honest we were just making up the numbers in the 90s. Moyes took us to a level after that but we needed a manager change long before he left to take us on to the next level. It’s been a mess since.

Early days into this reign and the harsh reality is that it’s going to take a long time to get back to competing with the best.

 

[spectateur]

It’s funny reading that Wolves’ forum. They think they’re some powerhouse in waiting.

Just like us then?

 

[GwladysBlue]

Just like us then?

We're not a club who has spent most of our history outside the top division. We're a Premier League ever-present.