....if the DoF leads the overall club strategy, i wonder if progress is on hold if there are no plans to renew Brands contract this summer.
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....if the DoF leads the overall club strategy, i wonder if progress is on hold if there are no plans to renew Brands contract this summer.
Toffee1995
Player Valuation: Free Transfer
Tough draw but again a few loca lads playing for Wigan who are obviously top quality...the boy McHugh Wonder goal the other night v Tranmere and obviously a brilliant talent, then the Goalkeeper Owen Mooney who's always been one of the best in the country yet they play for Wigan. We should be bringing in the very best local lads, yes we had a ban but go and get them when its up. I still fancy the lads getting through but we have to get the best local talent and there is 2 straight away we should get. Tough game definitely from the games we have played against them.
Cameron Manning
Player Valuation: £35m
Who is the man they brought in from Derby County early this year to have some input in Acadamy affairs, he did a good job at Derby, not sure if it was in recruiting young players.
That is Chris Perkins who has the title Head of Academy Recruitment. It was essentially the role Martin Waldron had when he left the club following the recruitment ban.
Initially it was said he was reporting to head of recruitment Gretar Steinsson, but things have been very quiet about him . Since then Unsworth has been promoted to include Director of Academy in his remit and Ebbrell is now Head of Academy coaching , so it’s not clear to me who Perkins reports to .
Cameron Manning
Player Valuation: £35m
Thanks for your reply, blueloon, I’ll have to remember that name, he came with a good reputation for finding talent so hopefully he will do a similar good job here, I think Martin Waldron did a very good job while was with Everton and it would be interesting to see how many young players Martin brought to Finch Farm and made it through the system, also how many current young players brought to Everton by Martin are doing now at their levels.
zzr45
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That interview is literally insane. The fact they are talking about bringing in an integrated talent id/development system in 2020 shows how far behind we are.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Devils advocate here, but how do you get an integrated system when you have 5 permanent managers, with different ideas, in about 5 years?
mrb85
Player Valuation: £35m
Is there really any point in aligning the U12s?? By the time they're ready for 1st team duties we'll have been through half a dozen managers and half a dozen different styles of playing!
What he [Ebbrell] is talking about - aligning all youth teams from top to bottom with the first team - is essential in making sure a DoF club model runs properly.
On one hand I'm surprised it's taken over 2 years of Brands' tenure to do this but I am also now thinking this might have been because Brands wasn't satisfied with the first team manager/style till Ancelotti (his first actual appointment) came in.
On one hand I'm surprised it's taken over 2 years of Brands' tenure to do this but I am also now thinking this might have been because Brands wasn't satisfied with the first team manager/style till Ancelotti (his first actual appointment) came in.
zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
Good question. With regards to Talent Development, the pathway should be more about developing ‘generalists’ who can do the specifics well. So using the example in the article, the pathway should be developing quick players who are comfortable with the ball at their feet and playing a passing game. That should then align with the coaching staff you look to bring in at a first team level and they can tweak as needed. That’s almost the perfect model.
The problem is that it seems there hasn’t been a coherent strategy on what an ‘Everton’ player looks like coming through the ranks, nor does it seem particularly aligned to the future needs of the senior squad.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
There's a lot of sense in this. I see this "model on the first team" stuff being thrown around, a bit like how loans are automatically good for players became accepted gospel. It sounds good, and where it works it works well, but it's mot always so simple.
I happen to agree with you. I think we really need to discard what happens at first team level, which will be changeable and try to create players that play with speed, and comfort on the ball.
We also have to acknowledge where we are in the pyramid. We sell top players to the top 10 teams in Europe. So we need to be modelling our approach to creating players who are able to attract the attention of the top teams. This is really what clubs like RB do. They buy/develop players who have a size and speed that amke them top players, even if a bit error prone.
It is simple it just takes time.
zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
Yeah there’s a whole argument against creating truly specialised players, so for example developing an u15 to the exact specifications of a senior team centre back. Changes in the game are inevitable, so a player developed to meet the challenge of long throws that were in vogue a few years ago would essentially be useless in today’s game. Plus teams risk becoming very one dimensional. Whilst there’s a general idea of how the game is progressing (more passes, more movement etc.) it’s an in exact science.
I know from bits I’ve picked up from the FA, teams are working far more to a general national framework for players than people seem to realise. As you say, in reality we are bit further down on the pecking order than we realise. It feels like we develop technically good players, but with a lot of other parts missing.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Of course. But we can't model on the tactics of the first team if they keep changing.