Everton Youth Teams Thread

[blueloon]

People on other threads are being totally unrealistic about Thierry Small suggesting he should be in the first team . The first glimpses I got of him was back in February when he came off the bench for the u18s , so he had a shortened last season , played regularly at U18 this season and got some minutes at U23s but is yet to start. Very little exposure really.
Undoubtedly he’s showing all the attacking traits of a modern full back , has the physical build and speed to match , scores goals as well as making cracking videos and there’s been more written about him in the past two months than any of our young players. But he’s 16 and still to be exposed to decent attackers running at him , let’s let him develop his defensive capabilities in the U23s first.

 

[Zatara]

got to say I reckon Small is the single biggest talent in our youth set up right now between u18 and u23... even the Dobbins et al I’m still in a holding pattern .. but Small is definitely causing a stir !

Just from reading here and the odd video, seems that Onyango, Dobbin , Simms and Small are the main ones mentioned.

I'd say Onyango mate, but Small is very good.

Onyango hopefully would be coming through in a season or two to backup Allan and Doucoure.

Add in Gbamin and we'd have 4 players to rotate/compete with one another which would be ideal.

I imagine Small would need this + next season to be considered 'ready' for a squad place. Hopefully he turns out as good as Saka for Arsenal.

Genuine question, how big is Theirry?

Small

People on other threads are being totally unrealistic about Thierry Small suggesting he should be in the first team . The first glimpses I got of him was back in February when he came off the bench for the u18s , so he had a shortened last season , played regularly at U18 this season and got some minutes at U23s but is yet to start. Very little exposure really.
Undoubtedly he’s showing all the attacking traits of a modern full back , has the physical build and speed to match , scores goals as well as making cracking videos and there’s been more written about him in the past two months than any of our young players. But he’s 16 and still to be exposed to decent attackers running at him , let’s let him develop his defensive capabilities in the U23s first.

Yeah, its a bit extreme isnt it?

The boy needs to cement a place in the u23s first really. Or at least have a few starts for them and show hes above that level.

 

[BornBlue76]

Just from reading here and the odd video, seems that Onyango, Dobbin , Simms and Small are the main ones mentioned.


Yeah, its a bit extreme isnt it?

The boy needs to cement a place in the u23s first really. Or at least have a few starts for them and show hes above that level.

What about Cannon.. his wonder goal deffo put him on the radar.

Agree with that around Small.. he has all the physical tools in the bag but really only looking at 22/23 before can consider a first team squad and likelihood is even then he would still only be 18/19. I know I'm often impatient to see game time but we will have to wait a couple years for a squad appearance I'm sure.. unless he is truly a phenom.

 

[Zatara]

What about Cannon.. his wonder goal deffo put him on the radar.

Agree with that around Small.. he has all the physical tools in the bag but really only looking at 22/23 before can consider a first team squad and likelihood is even then he would still only be 18/19. I know I'm often impatient to see game time but we will have to wait a couple years for a squad appearance I'm sure.. unless he is truly a phenom.

We mention these players but until theyve got first team games you never know...

Arsenal seem to be bringing through some good young players at the moment.

Bukayo Saka seems like he could go to the top and the rest of them are at least saving them money filling squad places.

I hope were able to do the same soon.

 

[Ring master]

What about Cannon.. his wonder goal deffo put him on the radar.

Agree with that around Small.. he has all the physical tools in the bag but really only looking at 22/23 before can consider a first team squad and likelihood is even then he would still only be 18/19. I know I'm often impatient to see game time but we will have to wait a couple years for a squad appearance I'm sure.. unless he is truly a phenom.

I read somewhere, cant even remember were it was, but it was dated about 3 weeks back that Cannon wont sign a new contract or turned one down, no idea obviously if True

 

[catcherintherye]

I read somewhere, cant even remember were it was, but it was dated about 3 weeks back that Cannon wont sign a new contract or turned one down, no idea obviously if True

I'm pretty sure he signed pro terms a few months ago mate. I think it was a 3 year deal as well. Maybe he won't sign an extension?

 

[catcherintherye]

People on other threads are being totally unrealistic about Thierry Small suggesting he should be in the first team . The first glimpses I got of him was back in February when he came off the bench for the u18s , so he had a shortened last season , played regularly at U18 this season and got some minutes at U23s but is yet to start. Very little exposure really.
Undoubtedly he’s showing all the attacking traits of a modern full back , has the physical build and speed to match , scores goals as well as making cracking videos and there’s been more written about him in the past two months than any of our young players. But he’s 16 and still to be exposed to decent attackers running at him , let’s let him develop his defensive capabilities in the U23s first.

It's all very fair mate. He has had some exposure to under 23's football. It is worth noting though, that the players who make the grade tend to skip through the age groups quite quickly.

I think he has been playing left wing for the 18's.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

It is worth noting though, that the players who make the grade tend to skip through the age groups quite quickly.

 

[Ring master]

I'm pretty sure he signed pro terms a few months ago mate. I think it was a 3 year deal as well. Maybe he won't sign an extension?

If he did, which i cant see via Everton's website after going back through the deals signed, you could be right about the extension bit
These are the deals [dates on reports] done to were ive gone back to via Everton website

Butterfield 6th october
Price 28th sep
Welch 21st sep
Whitaker 17th sep
Kouyate 11th sep
Onyango 24th July
Quirk 7th July
Kristensen 6th July
McAllister 2nd July
Hagan 1st July
Dobbin 9th Jan
Hughes 5th Jan
Leban 20th Dec 2019

Garcia 22nd oct 2019
warrington 11t oct 2019
Iversen 8th July 2019
Hunt 7th July 2019,
Adedoyin 6th July 2019
Hansen 4th July 2019
Anderson 3rd July 2019
Simms 25th may 2019

 

[BornBlue76]

It's all very fair mate. He has had some exposure to under 23's football. It is worth noting though, that the players who make the grade tend to skip through the age groups quite quickly.

I think he has been playing left wing for the 18's.

Yep.. rule 1 of 3 to be a real potential first teamer:
1. Plays in age groups above his own

 

[mightymoyes]

If he did, which i cant see via Everton's website after going back through the deals signed, you could be right about the extension bit
These are the deals [dates on reports] done to were ive gone back to via Everton website

Butterfield 6th october
Price 28th sep
Welch 21st sep
Whitaker 17th sep
Kouyate 11th sep
Onyango 24th July
Quirk 7th July
Kristensen 6th July
McAllister 2nd July
Hagan 1st July
Dobbin 9th Jan
Hughes 5th Jan
Leban 20th Dec 2019

Garcia 22nd oct 2019
warrington 11t oct 2019
Iversen 8th July 2019
Hunt 7th July 2019,
Adedoyin 6th July 2019
Hansen 4th July 2019
Anderson 3rd July 2019
Simms 25th may 2019

Yeh pretty sure cannon hasnt got a pro deal and his current contract expires next summer

 

[catcherintherye]

If he did, which i cant see via Everton's website after going back through the deals signed, you could be right about the extension bit
These are the deals [dates on reports] done to were ive gone back to via Everton website

Butterfield 6th october
Price 28th sep
Welch 21st sep
Whitaker 17th sep
Kouyate 11th sep
Onyango 24th July
Quirk 7th July
Kristensen 6th July
McAllister 2nd July
Hagan 1st July
Dobbin 9th Jan
Hughes 5th Jan
Leban 20th Dec 2019

Garcia 22nd oct 2019
warrington 11t oct 2019
Iversen 8th July 2019
Hunt 7th July 2019,
Adedoyin 6th July 2019
Hansen 4th July 2019
Anderson 3rd July 2019
Simms 25th may 2019

Thanks for that mate. This is a Mandela moment for me,as I'm almost certain I saw him sign a deal, and be pictured next to Marcel Brands signing it. How strange.

If he's not signing it would make some sense. I mean in these situations you never know if it's the club or the player refusing, or sometimes a bit of both. I'll be honest, it would surprise me if it's the player, as he plays a lot and has been involved with the 23's. I'm not sure they would push him forward in such a manner if they didn't think he would sign. In an Echo article they say;
"Cannon will head into his second-year scholarship looking to force his way into the plans of David Unsworth as well as earning a first professional contract. With a handful of other starlets already having signed senior terms, he is understood to be relaxed about his future and hopeful of securing a new deal with Everton." Thats from late May this year. It doesn't sound like a guy who desprately wants to leave or not sign.

Increasingly though lads will hedge their bets. Objectively I say good luck to them, but hopeful we don't lose players.

 

[catcherintherye]

Yep.. rule 1 of 3 to be a real potential first teamer:
1. Plays in age groups above his own

Yes definitely the case. And Small played in the 18's as an under 16. Onyango now plays for the reserves as an under 18. Gordon was quite similar. It's probably the best guide you have.

 

[BornBlue76]

Yes definitely the case. And Small played in the 18's as an under 16. Onyango now plays for the reserves as an under 18. Gordon was quite similar. It's probably the best guide you have.

still 16 and playing in u23.. that is a proper indicator
So did Ledson though didn’t he..

2. plays for age appropriate national team - tick innit?
3. Makes first team squad while a teen - time on his side.

repeated those many times over the years and hasn’t let me down.. Small is on track.. so is Onyango

 

[BlueBailey]

If he did, which i cant see via Everton's website after going back through the deals signed, you could be right about the extension bit
These are the deals [dates on reports] done to were ive gone back to via Everton website

Butterfield 6th october
Price 28th sep
Welch 21st sep
Whitaker 17th sep
Kouyate 11th sep
Onyango 24th July
Quirk 7th July
Kristensen 6th July
McAllister 2nd July
Hagan 1st July
Dobbin 9th Jan
Hughes 5th Jan
Leban 20th Dec 2019

Garcia 22nd oct 2019
warrington 11t oct 2019
Iversen 8th July 2019
Hunt 7th July 2019,
Adedoyin 6th July 2019
Hansen 4th July 2019
Anderson 3rd July 2019
Simms 25th may 2019

2nd year scholars who have not yet been offered or signed pros are: Tom Cannon, Dylan Thompson, Daniel Lowey, Liam Higgins, Joel Davidson and Jack McIntyre