Makes sense I guess then to give him another year doesn't it.
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Makes sense I guess then to give him another year doesn't it.
Not me personally unless they believe he can bring in a fee. 21 and nowhere near good enough for us.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £35m
I imagine it's down to rhys Hughes being able to get a pro deal elsewhere were as Iversens best level is U21. Either way I don't like the deal. Our 21s should be a confusing mishmash of 20 year olds not good enough and 18 year olds next season
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I mean inevitably some 20 year olds will have to stay, but I wouldnt be offering someone a deal on the basis of them not being able to secure one elsewhere. It sounds cruel, but it's not our problem.
Some strange deals all round I thought, including Seb Quirk, Mackenzie Hunt, Jack Barrett and Liam Higgins. A new DoF with new ideas ?
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £35m
Whilst some have to stay it seems *all* have stayed this season. I'm assuming Thelwell is confident in the loan market for our best talents and therefore has resigned them all to field a team. But I have no idea where that confidence is coming from given out history
I’m hoping the teenagers will be keeping out the “ 20 year olds not good enough” In the u21s .
Starting place is last season‘s Youth Cup team :
Nash, Mallon , Samuels-Smith, Campbell, Welch, Butterfield [ Mills (73' Djankpata), Metcalfe Sherif, Price (85' Barker), Okoronkwo . Take out Nash of course, add in the injured Whitaker and Kouyate plus other promising u18s like Heath and Dixon maybe supplemented by Dobbin , Warrington and Onyango at times if they‘re not loaned , out and we’ve got a core of promising young players . Hopefully they prove good enough , I’d rather see a team with potential than a team of older , more experienced players.
Football is business but it is still possible to have some decency and remember that we are talking about people. Often young people. Most clubs take care of their own. Wish them the best and try to help them on with their career.
Iversen has been out 16 months with a knee injury. After leaving friends and family behind when he moved abroad as a young boy to play football for Everton. He injured himself playing because he was playing for Everton.
To give him a short term contract so he can finish his rehabilitation and hopefully restart his career comes with very little cost and is something pretty much all clubs do. Not doing it would be embarrassing from a club like Everton.
It will surprise me if Iversen not within 12 months signs a better contract with a better club than what Rhys Hughes did.
And seriously. People need to stop focusing so much on the age of U21 players. Youth football is about development. Everton will not develop many first team players. And to develop any, they need a competitive U21 team. Last season Everton had the second youngest U23 team in PL2. But they did not have a competitive team.
If you play the 4 or 5 most talented teenagers it does not really matter if the rest of the players are 19, 22 or 35. Manchester United had a 36 year old Paul McShane as player/coach last season. Liverpool will have 33 year old Spearing as player/coach for U21 next season.
Everton U23 scored 33 league goals last season. Man City scored 65. West Ham scored 59. Crystal Palace scored 54. How are you supposed to develop young offensive players when your team dont have the ball and dont create chances?
Agreed, far too much talk about age.
In the past young players developed in the reserves which was a mixture of older squad players and the best of the young lads.
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £35m
A good point on injury tbf. I'm not fixated on the age I simply don't think some of the older ones given a new contract are good enough to keep the younger ones out the side unless the younger ones are sent out on loan which I think is the plan
Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
even doing young players leaving for us now lol
RuleteroToffee
Player Valuation: Free Transfer
Have we got any pre season fixtures for the U21s? I am sure we have only announced one at the moment.
mightymoyes
Player Valuation: £70m
Do the u21s only have 2 friendlies arranged?
Leylo
Player Valuation: £35m
Quirk has had some injury issues, I can vouch for that they're hoping can resolve so he can kick onSome strange deals all round I thought, including Seb Quirk, Mackenzie Hunt, Jack Barrett and Liam Higgins. A new DoF with new ideas ?