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Everton Youth Teams Thread

Free instead of charged like the FA YC nice. PSG team should be interesting to see if its better or worse than their UYL u19 team. If they take it seriously they could send Warren Zaire Emery who would be the best player by an absolute mile. Young Mbappe who's 15 may also play and Bitshiabu probably not. Mario Leminas brother on their books as well. None of them played against palace a few months back so I'm prepared to be underwhelmed.
 

Whittaker certainly looks to be the pick of the current crop.

Imperative that these lads get good loan deals. Surprised Reece Welsh hasn't gone out.
Mills, Price and Welsh have all been spending time with the first team and maybe all above Whitaker.

Whitaker was playing really well this time last year, when ever I watched the u23s he seemed to be the stand out player... intelligent runs, bit of pace, good passing, can finish, play left, right and centrally behind the striker.

An injury set him back and he seems to have taken a while to get back to where he was. Hopefully he is now as he seemed very promising.
 
I think people underestimate just how good players have to be to play in the Premier League, generally they have to be standouts in their international youth teams.

They then have to be physically amazing, the athleticism in the Premier League and Champ is ridiculous.

We have nobody of the level of say Tino Anjorin in the current U23 and he is someone struggling to play at Champ level.

Not to put a dampener on things, it is still exciting looking out for the next big thing but I don't think we have anyone in the older age groups I'd see playing for us.

Lower levels, U16 for example apparently is a great crop but again you can have a great team and no superstars.
 
I think people underestimate just how good players have to be to play in the Premier League, generally they have to be standouts in their international youth teams.

They then have to be physically amazing, the athleticism in the Premier League and Champ is ridiculous.

We have nobody of the level of say Tino Anjorin in the current U23 and he is someone struggling to play at Champ level.

Not to put a dampener on things, it is still exciting looking out for the next big thing but I don't think we have anyone in the older age groups I'd see playing for us.

Lower levels, U16 for example apparently is a great crop but again you can have a great team and no superstars.
I totally agree, with the slight change that it's not so much how good you have to be to 'play' in the PL, more how good you have to be to do any more than just make up the numbers. Lots of players can come in for a game here and there and not look terribly out of place, but that doesn't mean they have the ability to go on and make a career at that level. It's certainly true in the vast majority of cases that if you're out on loan at 19/20 then unless you're absolutely ripping it up at a lower level the chances of coming back and becoming a key player aren't great.
 

I think people underestimate just how good players have to be to play in the Premier League, generally they have to be standouts in their international youth teams.

They then have to be physically amazing, the athleticism in the Premier League and Champ is ridiculous.

We have nobody of the level of say Tino Anjorin in the current U23 and he is someone struggling to play at Champ level.

Not to put a dampener on things, it is still exciting looking out for the next big thing but I don't think we have anyone in the older age groups I'd see playing for us.

Lower levels, U16 for example apparently is a great crop but again you can have a great team and no superstars.
The one point I’d disagree with you is your “ I think people underestimate “ , the vast majority recognise how difficult it is for one of our Academy players to become a first team regular. Sure there’ll be the odd enthusiastic over the top post, but most recognise that the old “ wouldnt it be good if 1 or 2 came through each year” is not applicable in the PL era , where of late we’ve only had Kenny, Davies and Gordon get to 50 games, so roughly one player every two years.

I just enthusiastically enjoy the u18/21s but with no realistic expectation that we’re going to discover three or four players who’ll eventually transform our fortunes. You‘re right, it’s the physicality which is usually the deciding factor, particularly for our young CBs like Astley, Welch, Campbell , Samuels-Smith where none have the same physical build of a Branthwaite and even with him , the reality is that bringing in two big , strong 29 year olds at a relatively low cost becomes more effective.

My favourite youth player a while back was Callum Connolly, I loved his commitment and versatility but never had any expectation that he’d play for our first team . Just enjoy them for what they are, a bunch of young Everton players representing our club.
 
The one point I’d disagree with you is your “ I think people underestimate “ , the vast majority recognise how difficult it is for one of our Academy players to become a first team regular. Sure there’ll be the odd enthusiastic over the top post, but most recognise that the old “ wouldnt it be good if 1 or 2 came through each year” is not applicable in the PL era , where of late we’ve only had Kenny, Davies and Gordon get to 50 games, so roughly one player every two years.

I just enthusiastically enjoy the u18/21s but with no realistic expectation that we’re going to discover three or four players who’ll eventually transform our fortunes. You‘re right, it’s the physicality which is usually the deciding factor, particularly for our young CBs like Astley, Welch, Campbell , Samuels-Smith where none have the same physical build of a Branthwaite and even with him , the reality is that bringing in two big , strong 29 year olds at a relatively low cost becomes more effective.

My favourite youth player a while back was Callum Connolly, I loved his commitment and versatility but never had any expectation that he’d play for our first team . Just enjoy them for what they are, a bunch of young Everton players representing our club.
I was hopeful for Connolly too. He looked pretty useful in the few games I watched, mainly for the England youth team. He played nearly all over the pitch as well, LB,RB,CB,LM,RM,CM, I think he even played CF once but may be wrong.
 
I was hopeful for Connolly too. He looked pretty useful in the few games I watched, mainly for the England youth team. He played nearly all over the pitch as well, LB,RB,CB,LM,RM,CM, I think he even played CF once but may be wrong.
The first time I saw Connolly he scored two goals from left back for England u17s. It’s nice to see he’s making a career in the game at Blackpool.
 
I think people underestimate just how good players have to be to play in the Premier League, generally they have to be standouts in their international youth teams.

They then have to be physically amazing, the athleticism in the Premier League and Champ is ridiculous.

We have nobody of the level of say Tino Anjorin in the current U23 and he is someone struggling to play at Champ level.

Not to put a dampener on things, it is still exciting looking out for the next big thing but I don't think we have anyone in the older age groups I'd see playing for us.

Lower levels, U16 for example apparently is a great crop but again you can have a great team and no superstars.
Agree!

Especially in a side that is lacking any sort of consistency or stability over the last 4-5 years!

It sounds cold and cut throat, but unless they are in the top 4 or 5 in the country, they aren't getting a sniff! Welch might be the most likely, but how many centre halves manage to come through? He would need atleast 3 building loans, and they would need to be successful for them to work!

I really like some of our under 21 players, but our main priority should really be a plan to get them out on loan with an idea of selling them for a tasty fee (Josh Bowler moved to Forest for 4-5m recently, if Stan Mills went to Blackpool for 24 months and pulled the same numbers, w could probably find someone to take 7-8 million for him)
 
The one point I’d disagree with you is your “ I think people underestimate “ , the vast majority recognise how difficult it is for one of our Academy players to become a first team regular. Sure there’ll be the odd enthusiastic over the top post, but most recognise that the old “ wouldnt it be good if 1 or 2 came through each year” is not applicable in the PL era , where of late we’ve only had Kenny, Davies and Gordon get to 50 games, so roughly one player every two years.

I just enthusiastically enjoy the u18/21s but with no realistic expectation that we’re going to discover three or four players who’ll eventually transform our fortunes. You‘re right, it’s the physicality which is usually the deciding factor, particularly for our young CBs like Astley, Welch, Campbell , Samuels-Smith where none have the same physical build of a Branthwaite and even with him , the reality is that bringing in two big , strong 29 year olds at a relatively low cost becomes more effective.

My favourite youth player a while back was Callum Connolly, I loved his commitment and versatility but never had any expectation that he’d play for our first team . Just enjoy them for what they are, a bunch of young Everton players representing our club.

This!

You probably need to treat it as a separate entity!
 

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