Harryflashman
Player Valuation: £60m
Mate as others have pointed out that’s just not how it works , otherwise the experience of opposing fans and how it’s policed would be very different wouldn’t it ?
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Obviously we’re both speculating mate, i don’t know if it’s true or not, seems reports are from a sourc3 in the club and national media so it’s a sketchy enough source.
To play devils advocate though, I’d suggest as CEO, she be keen to order ve the image of the club and fan base, having a CEO in headlock is bad publicity for the business, PR and her professionally, not to mention as a woman in sport. Secondly if it was pursued by the CPS she would have to give witness evidence, so she’d be in the dock giving evidence about a fan - I’d suggest that would be divisive and sadly there are many still in the city that would call her a grass. As it was against Brighton, things hadn’t got toxic by then, but since palpable tension has built, Moshiri during the week kicked it off, but at the time she may have thought by taking it further could have kicked off the toxicity we saw yesterday. Often victims of violence blame themselves or are paralysed by fear to anxiety if future reprocussions.
I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I do know a little but about trauma and PTSD reactions and victim psychology, If it did happen I’d hypothesise all or part of that could have been part of her decision making process.
Again not saying it did happen because it’s a sketchy source, just playing devils advocate really and hope it’s false.
Kenrights "Operation Silence The Fans" now in full operational mode.
His media luvvies lapping it up.
His media luvvies lapping it up.
I did a bit in U.K. law and criminal justice back in the early 00s when I lived there, admittedly more in Scotland (which is different from England), while I do a bit in the area in Ireland sadly still - over here I think the threory is similar but in practice it’s very unlikely for a case to proceed if an allegation isn’t made or a victim is hostile (doesn’t assist the investigation). Happy to admit Law in England is something I wouldn’t be able to apply ver batem or may have changed since I worked there, so happy to defer to lads who may be more up to date - I don’t live in the U.K. these days, so likely out of the loop.
Are we sure a complaint hasn’t been made by DBB, she also has a right to confidentiality and through experience investigations in pursuing a CPS case and compiling evidence can take a while.
Im speculating on that of course.
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I’ve just reported it to Merseyside police, so I guess we will find out shortly, I did put down for victim support if found to be true
Harryflashman
Player Valuation: £60m
Mate would you like the names of all the lads banned for fighting at football where nobody complained ? It’s a fairly long list like
Im not sure what you think I’m arguing mate?
Diogenes the Cynic
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nevsonlymate
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Agreed if it’s a he said she said but directors box presumably full of witnesses and cctv , slam dunk assault charge .Technically not, but in practice very unlikely the CPS would proceed with a case with DBB as a hostile witness.
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Harryflashman
Player Valuation: £60m
Sorry don’t mean to come across as if I’m having a go , this story has just wound me up . I just sort of mean if you’re involved in an altercation in a ground you’re in trouble regardless of what anyone says . That’s the point I’m trying to make Also the club have a responsibility for supporter safety so I suggest are obliged to take action. .
I honestly think the story is absolute BS and will continue to think so until they prove me wrong which you’d think would be easy .
nevsonlymate
Player Valuation: £8m
And not a bog standard employee and no offence to the good people that work at the club but the actual CEO
Shevin Keedy
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Is it possible someone's just put their arm around her and asked for a selfie with her? Could that be it?
If the evidence is there definitely. If you are the police are you contacting the club in the morning to follow up on the allegations in the national media....
What strikes me as wired about it, is why leak it if there wasn’t any truth in it? Not saying there is, but it’s a very specific thing to leak - I mean you could just say there were death threats during the week and they are off the hook yesterday, having a women in headlock - is a madly graphic and specific if you were just looking for an easy out….
Someone posted something from the journo Richard Buxton this morning that said the police were “aware” of the incident - so I don’t know, maybe it was reported and they are investigating.
Ah not at all mate, your grand, I’m just playing devils advocate as opposed to taking up the defence position - we’re all speculating.
In the case of football violence, who makes the case, the club, the Police, the victim - I’m not sure is it a CPS case or are people just banned by the club, do people go to prison like for throwing a haymakers at grounds.
Say the kid who Ronaldo smashed his phone, who took the case, the club, his parents or the police without either, I’m not 100% sure.
We’re not 100% sure it wasn’t reported, maybe it was and it’s being investigated and we just don’t know about it.
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