Farhad Moshiri

[Goat]

Well if Usmanov sold his Arsenal stake, nah, I won’t even go there. lol

Wouldnt really matter tho would it?

I mean if its Alis money or Moshers, this would still happen to "protect their investment???"

 

[Neiler]

Wouldnt really matter tho would it?

I mean if its Alis money or Moshers, this would still happen to "protect their investment???"

Thats what I believe personally they are a consortium working together to double their exposure to the gravy train of PL by doubling their investment for bigger growth and return between two different clubs. That’s why I think you will never see Usmanov officially here, why would he when they have growing stakes in two instead rather then one club.

It’s that simple and brilliant you’d wonder why no one has done it before.

 

[Goat]

Thats what I believe personally they are a consortium working together to double their exposure to the gravy train of PL investment bigger between two different clubs That’s why I think you will never see Usmanov officially here, why would he when they have stakes in two instead on one club.

It’s that simple and brilliant you’d wonder why no one has done it before.

Said the same to a frandel the other day.

The benefits of staying apart far out weight the benefits of being together.

My words were "They share a bank account", they laughed of course, but still................

 

[Neiler]

Said the same to a frandel the other day.

The benefits of staying apart far out weight the benefits of being together.

My words were "They share a bank account", they laughed of course, but still................

It’s what I believe mate, the whole thing top to bottom smacks of it, being gifted Arsenal shares, then buying them back for north of 200 mill, to help a pal buy a football club, to create a legit paper trail. USM sponsorship, new ground with swanky real-estate being developed in the docklands, you can bet Moshiri and Usmanov are up to their nuts in the development, I expect that to be the next piece in the public. Hasn’t he already bought the Liver building.


It’s actually illogical to think their not doing that.

 

[degsy]

Yeah sadly hes also chatting wham.

I mean the fact that he thinks Moshiri will be funding the stadium with his own money is the biggest pile of horse manure ive ever read.

Bless him.

There are 3 business models;
I pay (for it, whatever 'it' is)
You pay
or the one most favour
Somebody else pays...see Kenwright and how his shares accumulated as the club debt did.

Accountancy/money is a game of musical chairs...( tongue in cheek, many a true word spoken in jest etc; thats why they have double entry book keeping and all those different columns, to switch it about)
When the music stops aka, somebody actually looks at the columns, the trick is to have all the +totals...how ever fleeting and temporarily, in you column and all the -totals, not; as it were.
You're confusing Moshiri's actual cash money with what it has bought, shares, interest free loans to be repayed as and when, if at all, etc.
The plan is to have all he has and will fork out to appear, in the end, as one of 3 things...none of which will be in his personal minus column btw.
Club debt
New share made up of 'debt' converted to shares
Or, a mixture of both, passed on in the selling price to the new buyer...see No. 3 above.

Short version:
The greater fool theory states that it is possible to make money by buying securities, or anything similar, whether or not they are overvalued, by selling them for a profit at a later date. This is because there will always be someone (i.e. a bigger or greater fool) who is willing to pay a higher price.
(See also bitcoin)

 

[Saint Domingo]

We demanded sweeping changes. He has made them. Regardless of how things have turned out on the pitch last season the appointments of Koeman, Walsh, and now Brands and Silva are more ambitious than any appointment Everton have made for decades.

Moshiri (for better or worse) has the pulling power to go to mid table premier league clubs and take their manager, players, or key personnel. He’s also gone to PSV and extracted their revered DOF from CL football and the dynasty he built.

Compare and contrast this with Kenwright appointing Smith, then when in relegation trouble a championship manager who didn’t get promotion with Preston (thank god he lucked out on that), then the man who took Wigan down.

The Allardyce episode is a bad one but short lived (although it seemed to last forever). But what is undeniable is that Moshiri is far more capable of delivering what we want than Kenwright was or Johnson before him.

 

[Frang]

I consider it alarming.

Very alarming.

I have my doubts myself, but we will see.

who would buy said shares?? would have to be a load of them to get any real monies I spect??

 

[degsy]

It isnt mate.

Like, he aint gonna raise £300m from the Park End is he?

Makes you wonder who could.

Was one of my musings also. The fact Moshiri went over the 50% threshold a few weeks back as well. Now, who has a few bob to buy enough Everton shares to pump prime £300m for a new ground........ @Brisan123

Just say it mate, I'll start you off...
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[Sir Alan]

Bump

 

[Goat]

Bump

lollollol

 

[Sir Alan]

lollollol

*gets popcorn*

 

[Giraffe_Baker]

 

[Khalekan]

There was a reason why at the start of Everton’s initial managerial search, those days in between Ronald Koeman’s sacking and prior to Sam Allardyce appointment, Diego Simeone was discussed as a possible candidate by the powers that be.

The link was greeted with predictable guffawing in the predictable places — ‘why would El Cholo consider Everton?’ — yet feelers were put out in the hope of somehow pulling off a surprise appointment.

Simeone has remained out of reach, of course, and yet his body of work remains the reference point.

There are those in the new-look Goodison Park hierarchy who believe Everton should be the Atletico Madrid of the Premier League, a label presumably demanding a team that play with attitude, a club that are united behind the cause, are savvy in the transfer market and manage to regularly upset the natural order.

In other words, a philosophy far removed from what the club had become by the end of Allardyce’s brief reign and an insight into why he was not retained despite lifting Everton from 13th to eighth place.

It is a bold vision, easy to dream up but more difficult to deliver, and one which serves to underline the scale of the task facing Marco Silva now that he has been confirmed as the club’s fourth permanent manager since May 2016.

Players who have worked with Silva speak highly of him. They chronicle his obsessive attention to detail, with and without the ball, a penchant for pace out wide (which should offer Ademola Lookman an opportunity if his head and heart is not already in RB Leipzig following his loan spell in Germany) and an ambitious outlook that says the best teams are not unbeatable.

“I know what our fans expect — they expect results but not only results,” said Silva, who has signed a three-year contract. “I want our fans to be proud when they see our team on the pitch. I want them to feel that we are committed, that we are working hard and enjoying our football because that is important as well.

“We want to build a great connection between the squad and the fans, and I’m sure that with our attitude and demands of commitment then our style of play will see that.

“Everton is a really ambitious club and that is what I want. What we are seeing now are good changes at the club. The club is changing its approach. But one thing we cannot change and nobody wants to change is the huge history and ambition of the club.”

Everton’s interest in Silva dates back to November and he remains subject of an official tapping-up complaint by Watford that is now likely to require Premier League arbitration to resolve.

He fits the “modern coach” criteria Marcel Brands, Everton’s new director of football, outlined last week and which feels a more substantial brief than the desire for a “Hollywood manager” that led to the recruitment of Koeman as Roberto Martínez’s replacement.

The 40-year-old arrives with plenty to prove, having won just 16 of his 48 games in England during brief spells with Hull City and Watford. His assistant manager João Pedro, Hugo Olivera, the goalkeeping coach, Antonis Lemonakis, the technical scout, and Pedro Conceicao, the fitness coach, will join him, while Duncan Ferguson is set to remain on the staff.

And so if Everton’s new power structure, in which Farhad Moshiri, the major shareholder, wields all of the influence, is serious about the club becoming the “Atletico of England” then they are on trial, too.

Money has to be made available for overhauling a squad lacking in quality and, crucially, personality at a time when Everton are already seeking to borrow £220 million to go with a £280 milion Liverpool City Council loan to fund a new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

Weeding out the weak and moving on the deadwood from Everton’s squad will not raise untold riches. Efforts to sell Wayne Rooney are motivated by a desire to save money on his wages, while jettisoning the likes of Ashley Williams, Kevin Mirallas, Sandro Ramírez and Muhamed Besic will not raise much towards reinforcements.

Moshiri has already injected £150 million into the club through the company, BlueSky Capital, and now the informed talk is of a potential rights issue to raise further funds.

But most of all there must be a willingness to invest time — as well as money — in Silva and look beyond the inevitable glitches in form as the Portuguese looks to embed his way of thinking and playing.

The same is true of a supporter base that embraced Martínez and quickly grew tired, embraced Koeman and quickly grew tired and simply grew tired of Allardyce.

However, the lead must come from the very top. Otherwise, the only true similarity with Atletico will end up being the “hire ‘em, fire ‘em” mentality which existed before Simone marched through the door seven years ago.

sigh.......

I have always dreamed my beloved EFC could become the Real Madrid of England

Not Athletico.

 

[HongKongToffee]

Atletico who actually win things home and abroad and punch way above their weight and have a world class manager and stadium.

First do the above then start making claims about emulating them.

What a shambles of PR which just makes us a laughing stock leaking outrageous claims out like that.

 

[havrey0123]

We demanded sweeping changes. He has made them. Regardless of how things have turned out on the pitch last season the appointments of Koeman, Walsh, and now Brands and Silva are more ambitious than any appointment Everton have made for decades.

Moshiri (for better or worse) has the pulling power to go to mid table premier league clubs and take their manager, players, or key personnel. He’s also gone to PSV and extracted their revered DOF from CL football and the dynasty he built.

Compare and contrast this with Kenwright appointing Smith, then when in relegation trouble a championship manager who didn’t get promotion with Preston (thank god he lucked out on that), then the man who took Wigan down.

The Allardyce episode is a bad one but short lived (although it seemed to last forever). But what is undeniable is that Moshiri is far more capable of delivering what we want than Kenwright was or Johnson before him.

Problem is he isn't one of the juggarnaughts in the business world. He isn't as smart as levy galzers or fsg and doesn't have the same money as Roman or city.

His net worth is down 600 million from last year according to Forbes.

For me the appointment of brands and Silva are small time. Many would even suggest west ham have just signed a better manager.

His looked at other teams spending big and winning things and thought I can do the same, if I buy a club

He looks out of his depth. His basically a rich version of kenright.

Not looking forward to the release of the accounts