Farhad Moshiri

[Toffee-nerd]

Can’t fault him for ploughing money in. How much has he spent now including sacking 3 managers & all the transfers? £250 million??

Anyone with any sense (excludes a few on here) could see we had a good manager, who’d just took us to 2 semi finals with a threadbare squad, an ageing defence & a once decent keeper costing us points...

Just imagine if he’d been given half of what’s been blown in the last 3 season.

Disagree with that. Martinez always set us up to fail with a shakey foundation, his mentality was always we will go out and outscore the opposition regardless of goals we concede. Sad thing is we've gone backwards in terms of managerial appointments since he got the chop. He needed to go at the time, it was inevitable, he had lost the fans and the players. It's the choices we made to replace him with that's been our undoing.

Anyway what do I know, I thought koeman was a perfect fit for us...that turned out well. Moshiris put money in which is more than any other chairman has done in recent times, it's just we may as well have put a big bonfire on the pitch and piled it on than accrue this squad of steaming turd.

 

[Baileyjon]

What money has Moshiri put in though.

Moshiri isn't on the hook for the transfers it is Everton FC who face the liabilities of our wholly misjudged transfers over the last couple of years.

Financial fair play rules prevent owners from putting money into Clubs. One of the exceptions is infrastructure. If Moshiri wanted to put money into Everton it would be very easy. He could fund the Stadium which would be exempt from FFP and the Club would benefit from increased match day revenue.

He won't do that though because that would be his money. He has no problem pissing away transfer fees or paying off managers with OUR money but he has a real problem sticking his hand in his own pocket.

 

[Gordon Lee's Cushion]

I would never want Moyes back here but even i have to admit we were a miles better team back then than we are now. We were in Europe regularly and had a few decent runs and the team were fighters no matter who was on the field. There were of course bad times too but far more good times back then imo.

We have mostly gone backwards since then other than a flukey Martinez season and further backwards even more since Moshiri started pumping money in giving him more power and making absolutely clueless decisions such as appointing plebs of Managers, this one included.

Thankfully none of that money he wasted on those decisions is ours, oh hang on all of that money is ours (the clubs) and nicely tied up as loans from him. Correct me anyone if I'm wrong but he has as yet not risked a penny of his own cash. Yes it might exist as an equity loan (£250m) but it's the club that will eventually have to repay that money.

 

[4737carlin]

Tbh we were doing better under BK....and I never, ever thought I would be saying that.

Sad but this is true, Moshiri should have it easier, but since he has come with have gone from Koeman, to Sam to Silva, its criminal to think the best manager we have had since he came is Sam Allardyce

 

[Deleted member 38674]

We all need someone to believe in...

This is the real reason.

Because he's not the manager?

Nor is Moshiri?

 

[Baileyjon]

Thankfully none of that money he wasted on those decisions is ours, oh hang on all of that money is ours (the clubs) and nicely tied up as loans from him. Correct me anyone if I'm wrong but he has as yet risked a penny of his own cash. Yes it might exist as an equity loan (£250m) but it's the club that will eventually have to repay that money.

Exactly.

It is a joke best summed by the nonsense about us having to sell to buy this window. If billionaire Moshiri was footing the bill then transfers wouldn't be a problem. Transfers were a problem because are Everton footing the bill and we had spent beyond our means because of Moshiri's mistakes.

Football accountancy is based on amortization. When you sign a player his transfer fee is split over the length of his contract. So you buy a young player and by the time you come to sell him he is worth nothing on the books. You sell a young player for £50m and that is £50m profit on the books. In the first year that means you can spend £250m on players if they are on 5 year deals because the transfer fees are divided by the contract length.

That is what Moshiri has done the sale of Lukaku etc gave us an accountancy windfall and Moshiri pissed it away on ageing no marks, manager compensation and loan fees. The problem is we need to sell a Lukaku a season to balance the books but there simply aren't any Stones or Lukaku's left to cash in on.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Because the recruitment is not the problem. Mina is quality, Digne is quality, Gomes is absolute quality - the problem is what we are asking them to do, which is play in a system that has failed for four and a half seasons

Can’t understand that. The recruitment is quite clearly the biggest fundamental problem we have. That we’ve spent a fortune on dross under successive managers.

Of the players brought in this summer, only Richarlison is categorically a success. The jury is still out on Mina, Digne, Gomes, Bernard and Zouma, all of whom have had their moments but largely looked unimpressive.

To break the top six, we need to sign top six quality players and none of those mentioned, bar Richarlison, are of that standard. In previous years big money has been spent on Pickford, Sigurdsson, Keane, Walcott, Tosun Klaassen, Schneiderlin - all of whom aren’t top six standard either.

This isn’t a system that has failed for four and a half seasons. That implies we’ve used the same system under Silva, Allardyce, Ronko and Martinez. And we haven’t.

So again, the manager is a problem but he’s not the only one. Moshiri has had 6 transfer windows with us and Brands has had 2. Why is Brands totally lacking in any culpability for our situation when the other two are getting all the grief?

He’s oversaw the biggest summer spending in the clubs history (and added a manager - i’m sure he was privy to the selection process there too) and it’s largely seen us regress as a team.

 

[tsubaki]

Can’t understand that. The recruitment is quite clearly the biggest fundamental problem we have. That we’ve spent a fortune on dross under successive managers.

Of the players brought in this summer, only Richarlison is categorically a success. The jury is still out on Mina, Digne, Gomes, Bernard and Zouma, all of whom have had their moments but largely looked unimpressive.

To break the top six, we need to sign top six quality players and none of those mentioned, bar Richarlison, are of that standard. In previous years big money has been spent on Pickford, Sigurdsson, Keane, Walcott, Tosun Klaassen, Schneiderlin - all of whom aren’t top six standard either.

This isn’t a system that has failed for four and a half seasons. That implies we’ve used the same system under Silva, Allardyce, Ronko and Martinez. And we haven’t.

So again, the manager is a problem but he’s not the only one. Moshiri has had 6 transfer windows with us and Brands has had 2. Why is Brands totally lacking in any culpability for our situation when the other two are getting all the grief?

He’s oversaw the biggest summer spending in the clubs history (and added a manager - i’m sure he was privy to the selection process there too) and it’s largely seen us regress as a team.

Look, the recruitment cannot be the problem if the players change but the system (and the system has stayed the same - thats why we invariably play with one up front, two holding midfielders, two centre-halves etc) remains, or why all the "failed / the jury is out" players - Gomes, Digne, Bernard, Schneiderlin, Walcott - look decent to begin with and then begin to fade the more they play in it. When was the last time we started a game with two up front? How many times have we done that in four and a half seasons?

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Look, the recruitment cannot be the problem if the players change but the system (and the system has stayed the same - thats why we invariably play with one up front, two holding midfielders, two centre-halves etc) remains, or why all the "failed / the jury is out" players - Gomes, Digne, Bernard, Schneiderlin, Walcott - look decent to begin with and then begin to fade the more they play in it. When was the last time we started a game with two up front? How many times have we done that in four and a half seasons?

The formation may well appear the same, but the team under Martinez and the team under Silva is quite different.

I’m not having that Silva, Allardyce, Martinez and Koeman set up their teams in the same way. They all achieved pretty dire results but that’s probably where the similarities end for much of it.

 

[Baileyjon]

Look, the recruitment cannot be the problem if the players change but the system (and the system has stayed the same - thats why we invariably play with one up front, two holding midfielders, two centre-halves etc) remains, or why all the "failed / the jury is out" players - Gomes, Digne, Bernard, Schneiderlin, Walcott - look decent to begin with and then begin to fade the more they play in it. When was the last time we started a game with two up front? How many times have we done that in four and a half seasons?

No one plays two up front though. The game has moved on.

It is about finding space in between the lines and in the half spaces. If you go two upfront then you get over run in midfield and you end up playing low percentage balls up to your heavily marked front two and they end up isolated and you don't have a hope of picking up the second balls.

 

[Lanolin]

Look, the recruitment cannot be the problem if the players change but the system (and the system has stayed the same - thats why we invariably play with one up front, two holding midfielders, two centre-halves etc) remains, or why all the "failed / the jury is out" players - Gomes, Digne, Bernard, Schneiderlin, Walcott - look decent to begin with and then begin to fade the more they play in it. When was the last time we started a game with two up front? How many times have we done that in four and a half seasons?

Yeah I think that’s you just not realising it’s not 1997 anymore. Playing 2 up front is absolutely not the answer. Recruitment absolutely can be the problem if the players you buy aren’t worth the fees. Why do you think we can’t get rid of the players we don’t want? Because nobody will even pay half what we did for them.

 

[Number_25]

I wasn't going to chime in, but...

I found his "when I came here, the place was a museum" comments really disgusting. Throwing a bit of blue plastic on Goodison Park and wasting half a billion on players, only to regress, doesn't allow you to make such comments.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

If I was Moshiri I'd wash my hands of the club and put it straight up for sale hoping for a bid from Mike Ashley, then you numpties in here slating him would have something to moan about.

He's backed this club with serious cash, one of the top spenders in Europe since he's been here, and all he gets is crap for it.

Farhad Moshiri has done nothing but try to get this club back where it belongs, keep the faith Farhad, I do in you fella.

 

[tsubaki]

No one plays two up front though. The game has moved on.

It is about finding space in between the lines and in the half spaces. If you go two upfront then you get over run in midfield and you end up playing low percentage balls up to your heavily marked front two and they end up isolated and you don't have a hope of picking up the second balls.

Yeah I think that’s you just not realising it’s not 1997 anymore. Playing 2 up front is absolutely not the answer. Recruitment absolutely can be the problem if the players you buy aren’t worth the fees. Why do you think we can’t get rid of the players we don’t want? Because nobody will even pay half what we did for them.

... so I guess neither of you two could remember either.

 

[Lanolin]

... so I guess neither of you two could remember either.

To be fair it worked a treat about 7 hours ago when we tried it at the end of the game. Made a world of difference.