davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He was a disaster for us by the end. He cementred a style of play we've struggled badly to get away from since he left. Route one hoofball.
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He absolutely did. Without him in charge at that time we would have been relegated. There was nothing left in the tank when he came in.
We’d had Gaza on crutches and an obese Ginola, with Walter Smith and Archie Knox orchestrating. It was one of the worst periods for Everton. That and the period of Martinez last season through to Ancelotti’s arrival. Just awful.
Moyes brought some great players, Cahill, Baines, Pienar, Artets, Martin. We just didn’t have the money to go further. By the end, I think we were very close to properly challenging.
The Binman
Player Valuation: £10m
I don't necessarily disagree with that, but in all honesty I can't comment on it, because I didn't know how they operated on a day to day basis or how they treated people generally. Martinez might be a nice person Moyes mayy not. One thing is certain, Moyes had us generally on an upward trajectory, Martinez had us going the opposite way. It's not hard to see why, the pre season friendly with Leicester is a good stand out, we were awful trying manipulate the ball from the back when it was clear we couldn't but Martinez persisted. It's likely by the end of Martinezs tenure if it had continued we would probably have been relegated. So Moyes achievements will always outshine Martinezs simply because of the length of time here, and the team he created. He wasn't perfect and always seemed to bottle the big games, but generally we won or drew more than we lost and were really hard to beat most of the time. But as I said it wasn't perfect and there are many things you can criticise. As far as I am concerned Martinez should have been nowhere near our great club.
cooperman
Player Valuation: £10m
Fully agree.
Also Moyes set a high standard for attitude, commitment, work rate etc which has been lacking often since he left.
People who slate him have clearly forgotten what it was like in the late 90s early 00s.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Moyes almost relegated us in season two. If that had happened now he'd have been sacked.
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
Any former managers are, bar Allardyce and Koeman
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
Moist will be leading WHU to a European finish this season - above us as well.
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
And then qualified for Europe 4 times in the 5 seasons after because the board stuck with him
Cookmysock
Player Valuation: £1.5m
I can see that dont have a problem with the stability he brought to the club and the job he done with a pittance. Its the end of his time the way he left us and the summer that followed showed him to be the disrespectful gimp i will remember him as along with the 'plucky little everton' aura he gave us and the times he bottled it in games.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
There is that Dave, I agree with you 100%. Could not wait to ditch us.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
We were safe with about 7 games to go.
I am somewhere in between with Moyes.
He certainly was the right appointment at the right time and slowly built up the club into a comfortable top half club on a shoestring budget.
He signed some very good players for very little money and some of the football he had the team playing was very good at times.
I do believe however that his managerial style has a ceiling which has nothing to do with finance. I think he is a top eight manager but not a top four manager.
I also think the manner of his leaving was very badly managed by him.
Most of us knew he was coming to the end of his time with Everton and would have accepted his move to Utd, but the way he tried to sign Baines and Fellaini was very poor.
What he said about Utd and Everton after leaving showed a lack of class and when Utd sacked him he got no sympathy from me.
I do believe if he had handled leaving better he would have had a better chance of coming back as manager.
I think Bill Kenwright realised the fans wouldn't accept him back.
He certainly was the right appointment at the right time and slowly built up the club into a comfortable top half club on a shoestring budget.
He signed some very good players for very little money and some of the football he had the team playing was very good at times.
I do believe however that his managerial style has a ceiling which has nothing to do with finance. I think he is a top eight manager but not a top four manager.
I also think the manner of his leaving was very badly managed by him.
Most of us knew he was coming to the end of his time with Everton and would have accepted his move to Utd, but the way he tried to sign Baines and Fellaini was very poor.
What he said about Utd and Everton after leaving showed a lack of class and when Utd sacked him he got no sympathy from me.
I do believe if he had handled leaving better he would have had a better chance of coming back as manager.
I think Bill Kenwright realised the fans wouldn't accept him back.
Different time. We had no money. He kept us in on pure willpower.
He did amazingly well on very little money. Absolutely amazing.
We were bad and had no money. We really should have gone down, but miraculously we didn’t. Our Park Hampers owner was an utter disaster for us.
When I look now, we are about to build an amazing new stadium, have a world class manager and an owner willing to back him with hard cash.
People have no idea how bad it got.
Hate to think where we would be if not for Wayne Rooney, sure we sold him "cheap", but I suspect he saved this club from entering a tailspin we would still be struggling to get out of.