Farhad Moshiri

[ForeverBlue92]

Didn't say I was happy,just happier than I was after Kirkby. We'd need transcripts of daily meetings to know his real input into the hiring of DoFs and players. Whoever has driven that is who's got us where we are.

I wouldn't bother mate - the bedwetting bandits will counter anything you say with "something something carpetbagger" "something something someone elses dough".

Without Moshiri there was no Usmanov money same way without Shiekh Mansour City have no unlimited Abu Dhabi state funds.

Good post though - mirrors what the silent majority in the fanbase feel that Moshers has ultimately failed but gave it a damn good go with big investment for players and kick starting our new stadium build.

 

[davids]

I’ll go with Farhad, for the following reasons:
1. He wanted to turn North West football into the Hollywood of the U.K. so hired Ronald Koeman
2. He had massive hardon for Marco Silva for 2 years
3. He wanted to keep big names managers so persuaded Carlo to come
4. He, against a lot of pushback, appointed Benitez
5. After sacking Benitez he then decided that Vitor Pierara was the man to lead us out of a relegation scrap

Although not universally welcomed at the time both Koeman and Silva were seen as decent appointments by most of the fan base. Pierara had been touted as our manager by fans over several seasons would he have done an equal or better job than Lampard? We'll never know.

 

[nsno-chris]

Although not universally welcomed at the time both Koeman and Silva were seen as decent appointments by most of the fan base. Pierara had been touted as our manager by fans over several seasons would he have done an equal or better job than Lampard? We'll never know.

Yes the point stands; if you a DoF who sole responsibility is to Direct Football, he should be making those decisions.

Otherwise, you get a [Poor language removed] show of players who don’t fit into anyone else’s plans and bleed the club dry.

Like it or not, the truth is he’s set the club back years. We are now cost cutting at every opportunity

 

[davids]

Hired two Directors of Football who saw fit to make the following signings:

Bolasie £27m
Schneiderlin £20m
Walcott £20m
Sigurdsson £45m
Tosun £27m
Keane £30m
Kean £20m
Iwobi £27m
Sandro £5m (huge wages)
Klaassen £20m
Gbamin £25m
- total outlay over £260m. Recouped less than £15m (will increase to about £40m once Kean goes), with five players released on free transfers and three still at the club.

Hired a CEO who apparently has no idea how to commercialise the football club or negotiate decent sponsorship deals.

Continued to allow the club to bring in misfit players such as Dele Alli at a potentially humongous cost to the club.

Allowed us to fall foul of Premier League spending rules and once again led to us needing to sell our best player at below market value.

Knew the sentiment towards Benitez yet brought him to the club anyway, then ended up sacking him after finally realising it was the wrong decision and we were going to get relegated.

Kept Kenwright involved in seemingly many aspects of running the club.

Turned us into the best example in world football of how not to spend £500m on players and made us a laughing stock amongst other clubs' fans due to the massive spend that somehow took us massively backwards.

All in all, it's quite remarkable how bad a job he's done. Needs to go as soon as possible.

You post as if EFC is his only business interest. He delegated football matters to someone who it's alleged was one of the prime movers in Leicester City coming from near relegation to winning the Prem. In his time here we've never been in the position to attract players with anything else but high wages.

 

[davids]

Yes the point stands; if you a DoF who sole responsibility is to Direct Football, he should be making those decisions.

Otherwise, you get a [Poor language removed] show of players who don’t fit into anyone else’s plans and bleed the club dry.

Like it or not, the truth is he’s set the club back years. We are now cost cutting at every opportunity

So you know exactly his input into the selection of players to buy? Or is it just based on forum rumours?

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

We are where we are primarily because we wasted huge amounts of money on players who didn't perform and who we couldn't move on. Who is the main culprit in that is open to interpretation.

For me the main culprit is undoubtedly Kenwright.
His failure to maintain or modernise the structure of the club has been exposed the moment we finally had the finance it had taken him so long to find.
Moshiri is to blame for allowing him to continue overseeing this decline from the so-called stability, (which would be better described as moribund inertia), which began with the badly judged appointment of Martinez.

 

[nsno-chris]

So you know exactly his input into the selection of players to buy? Or is it just based on forum rumours?

Well it’s based on media; if you want to say that Moshiri hasn’t physically told me so it’s not true, fair enough.

But going off past experiences on how’s acted, I’ll say the probability of his meddling his very high.

Imagine buy your £11m a year manager a £300k Rolls Royce because you had a good start to the season

 

[davids]

For me the main culprit is undoubtedly Kenwright.
His failure to maintain or modernise the structure of the club has been exposed the moment we finally had the finance it had taken him so long to find.
Moshiri is to blame for allowing him to continue overseeing this decline from the so-called stability, (which would be better described as moribund inertia), which began with the badly judged appointment of Martinez.

Hard to argue with that,other than Kenwright may have made it a stipulation of the sale that he would have a hand in the day to day,and that at the end of his first season Martinez was seen as a good appointment

 

[davids]

Well it’s based on media; if you want to say that Moshiri hasn’t physically told me so it’s not true, fair enough.

But going off past experiences on how’s acted, I’ll say the probability of his meddling his very high.

Imagine buy your £11m a year manager a £300k Rolls Royce because you had a good start to the season

And yet we know that most of what the media publish is rumour. As I said the new stadium is the biggest plus for us in decades. Clever of you to rule it out of the equation. Our present position is a mess but it's difficult to put it on the doorstep of one individual. More of a team effort.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Hard to argue with that,other than Kenwright may have made it a stipulation of the sale that he would have a hand in the day to day,and that at the end of his first season Martinez was seen as a good appointment

I was never a fan of the Martinez appointment, but I agree he was seen as success initially however towards the end of that first season his inability to coach the defence began to become apparent.
He was also less astute than Moyes in the transfer market.
At the time Kenwright interviewed Rangnick and considered appointing him DoF. Unfortunately Martinez demanded full control.
One of many turning points in this clubs history were the wrong path was taken.

 

[Simon Buttle]

For me the main culprit is undoubtedly Kenwright.
His failure to maintain or modernise the structure of the club has been exposed the moment we finally had the finance it had taken him so long to find.
Moshiri is to blame for allowing him to continue overseeing this decline from the so-called stability, (which would be better described as moribund inertia), which began with the badly judged appointment of Martinez.

Yes and No. Bill should have long gone years ago, he had his time and he should just let someone else have a gone unhindered end of. The big thing for me under Moshiri has been the over influence of Kia Joorabchian. He is well known to be Farhads 'football advisor' and he is a guy who destroys football clubs wherever he gets involved in them, Reading, QPR, Inter, West Ham and others. Thats before you even mention the countless dodgy dealings which mean he is no longer an official agent as such as he can't hold a license and has to operate through shared ownership companies. The day we let him into the club it was game over for me, there was only one way things were going.

 

[nsno-chris]

And yet we know that most of what the media publish is rumour. As I said the new stadium is the biggest plus for us in decades. Clever of you to rule it out of the equation. Our present position is a mess but it's difficult to put it on the doorstep of one individual. More of a team effort.

Well, the media do have inside scoops which also known. Yes, they may publish rumours on transfers etc but other stuff they will get “off the record” comments.

We have Brands comments the other day; but they’re not allowed because he’s trying to save face. We had the Athletic article in December, again not allowed because people thought it was brands. Rob Regal, a football agent, declaring the involvement of third party interests at Everton dictating purchases and appointments, a second agent declaring the clubs hierarchy is so unstructured that you need 3 approvals for sales.

So yes, the truth is more along the lines of his meddling than anything else.

And the reason I didn’t want people to mention the stardom, because it’s a get out of jail card for his mismanagement of that club. And while you alluded to the @its a team effort”, we’ll it’s not. He, and he alone, has a say over everything, he can overrule any decision and do as he pleases.

Second to that, the team effort you are referring to would all point to his decisions anyway. Keeping the same board after years of mismanagement, promoting failure from within, he appointed directors of football and managers, his decisions and nobody else.

So yes, unfortunately, everything is at his door. That his why we have PL approval for any purchase, that is why we have 94% wage ratio, that is why we are now asset stripping the entire club.

But shiny stadium innit; one that may not be under our ownership if he sells the club soon.

 

[Goat]

Out of pure curiosity, could any of the 96 that are happy with Moshiri explain why.

To make things harder, you cannot use the new stadium as a reason.

Generally interested in peoples viewpoint here

Hes invested 800m into us and hes not American.

 

[stevie blott]

I wouldn't bother mate - the bedwetting bandits will counter anything you say with "something something carpetbagger" "something something someone elses dough".

Without Moshiri there was no Usmanov money same way without Shiekh Mansour City have no unlimited Abu Dhabi state funds.

Good post though - mirrors what the silent majority in the fanbase feel that Moshers has ultimately failed but gave it a damn good go with big investment for players and kick starting our new stadium build.

It was deffo a huge investment, that much is not up for debate. Its how he spunked it with zero regard for how we would line up. Zero regard, Zero thought. The man is a fool.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Hired two Directors of Football who saw fit to make the following signings:

Bolasie £27m
Schneiderlin £20m
Walcott £20m
Sigurdsson £45m
Tosun £27m
Keane £30m
Kean £20m
Iwobi £27m
Sandro £5m (huge wages)
Klaassen £20m
Gbamin £25m
- total outlay over £260m. Recouped less than £15m (will increase to about £40m once Kean goes), with five players released on free transfers and three still at the club.

Hired a CEO who apparently has no idea how to commercialise the football club or negotiate decent sponsorship deals.

Continued to allow the club to bring in misfit players such as Dele Alli at a potentially humongous cost to the club.

Allowed us to fall foul of Premier League spending rules and once again led to us needing to sell our best player at below market value.

Knew the sentiment towards Benitez yet brought him to the club anyway, then ended up sacking him after finally realising it was the wrong decision and we were going to get relegated.

Kept Kenwright involved in seemingly many aspects of running the club.

Turned us into the best example in world football of how not to spend £500m on players and made us a laughing stock amongst other clubs' fans due to the massive spend that somehow took us massively backwards.

All in all, it's quite remarkable how bad a job he's done. Needs to go as soon as possible.

I agree with most of it mate not the first point tho , he employed them to pick the players and backed them if that’s what the manager dof wants then you back them other wise he’d be gettin accused of meddling Walsh and brands both came with decent reps but both ended up being useless