Financial Fair Play investigation

[Blue peter]

i've started to miss xG

We are now on to xL (expected litigation)

 

[Bkk Andy]

I think we should have a trial by combat like in Game of Thrones.

Riddick Bowe as our champion.

Old, out of shape and living on past glories. I'm not sure it's a good fit....

 

[Blue peter]

Finally. You've acknowledged we don't have cause to launch a legal action

Only taken 12 hours or more

To be fair I think he is saying that if the conditions are right then legal recourse is still a theoretical option, but he is not saying we will or that we have a cause of action to commence proceedings.

I take it you have stated this option is not on the table at all because of the PL rules around the commission/arbitration.

 

[cbrect]

Points deduction this season = Relegation

The auditors stated that relegation could lead to insolvency.

Insolvency in the championship = points deduction and possible relegation as a result.

It’s not too outrageous and this is Everton we are talking about here!

And the very thing that FFP was designed to prevent could be caused by… FFP

 

[Blue peter]

Does not look good for us at all after a text ive just received...unfortunately there will be a horrible shock coming our way....


Our fans just don't deserve this.

Leaks of DBBs more ‘intimate’ photos?

 

[Llyrap]

Hence that is why their recruitment is so good, they are constantly 2 steps ahead all the time as it's the only way they can keep up. They already have replacements for the main talents waiting to come through, take Mac Allister, they have another Argentine player Facundo Buonanotte waiting to take his place. Same with Caicedo, they have a Swedish youngster Yasin Ayari. It means when they sell that money is going back in the bank or towards the next youngster.

Agreed but they have to continually get it right

Arbitration and legal recourse through the courts are different. Arbitration requires mutual agreement, court proceedings being issued does not.

Not necessarily true. You can have an arbitration clause which makes it mandatory.

 

[Blue peter]

Agreed but they have to continually get t

Not necessarily true. You can have an arbitration clause which makes it mandatory.

I was talking more in the general sense. I work in civil litigation and arbitration is required to be mutually agreeable however in any claim against the Motor Insurers Bureau for example under one of their agreements you are correct, there is a clause that mandates arbitration if required.

 

[Llyrap]

I was talking more in the general sense. I work in civil litigation and arbitration is required to be mutually agreeable however in any claim against the Motor Insurers Bureau for example under one of their agreements you are correct, there is a clause that mandates arbitration if required.

For the purposes of FFP there is a binding arbitration clause within the rules.

 

[Blue peter]

To be honest I'm all about cheap gags now.


Having read the accounts, I think we could very well argue this all away.

Firstl I would argue about the nature of the breach. We're in the middle of a workaround in the regulations due to a once in a lifetime pandemic. We have had transfers fall through and a key player frozen out of the game for a season limiting his sale or input to the playing side, plus loss of key sponsors which required immediate efforts to be focussed there. If we took some of that we might well be compliant and so this is only a technical failing- a small slap on the wrist. It's an asterisk breach of the P&S rules if you will.

Secondly I would mitigate the percieved losses against our cooperation with the PL and the recent sales and projectory back into compliance.

If the PL chose the fair route in judgment, I'd suspect it should be a probationary period of a couple of seasons with oversight of what Everton are doing - with a fine or potentially points reduction if we don't comply with P&S during the probationary period.

Looks tough, and would suitably punish any future breaches.






Then I'd sue everyone at CAS! lol lol lol

Our case is strengthened if we can show in mitigation that we have cooperated fairly, openly and transparently in our transfer dealings with the PL, and that the losses taking us over the threshold are specific to us.

Talk of lost income due to a deflated transfer market one would think applies to every club, unless there was privileged documentation evidencing lost income.

So yes, infrastructure and loss of sponsorship is unique to us, but I would think depressed transfer values affects all the other clubs who appeared to have remained with the financial tolerance.

 

[Blue peter]

For the purposes of FFP there is a binding arbitration clause within the rules.

FFP which I believe is a UEFA construct or P&S?

 

[Llyrap]

FFP which I believe is a UEFA construct or P&S?

You’re right P &S. I was just utilising the heading of this thread which i should not have done.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Agreed but they have to continually get t

Not necessarily true. You can have an arbitration clause which makes it mandatory.

The thing is that its a model/system they have have for finding players. They spend £3m a year just on player research/data analysis. Part of it is looking in leagues/countries away from the norm. They have a bunch of people sat in an office in London literally watching matches from all over the world every week looking for players.

 

[Blue peter]

I can hardly wait for the pre match build on Monday, as it`ll be a double doomsday for the Death Cult.

Relegation via the traditional route of finishing in the bottom three or getting booted out by the league, due to FFP breaches.

Maybe we should replace the sirens with tick tocking and the chimes of doom

 

[Llyrap]

Well it's very clearly the same thing.

Except if you are going to use legal terminology in context it is not. It’s a bit like saying ruling. A judgment is a ruling but unless you’re North American or using google nobody would use it. It’s a bit like somebody asserting some knowledge on flying and calling a pilot a driver. Gives the impression that they’re talking wham.

 

[Llyrap]

The thing is that its a model/system they have have for finding players. They spend £3m a year just on player research/data analysis. Part of it is looking in leagues/countries away from the norm. They have a bunch of people sat in an office in London literally watching matches from all over the world every week looking for players.

Yes and its probably a system others will replicate or poach. They’ll have to continually innovate. They can do it but it’ll just get harder and harder.

If they become a real threat to the top 4 thw dynamic changes.