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Financial Fair Play investigation

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There’s a whole load of stupidity in this thread.
People aren’t attacking Everton the football club, the institution…
They are attacking the people who risk destroying the club, the great institution of workd football.
If people can’t see that, they aren’t worth reading a word of.
That's a very fine line to tread when the club have a knife at its throat over its governance.

Enhancing a media pile on as a backdrop to our case being heard is not great strategy for anyone looking to continue to court favour in their efforts to unseat the board (though incredibly these people seem to have respect still for the owner...which underlines how bizarre they can be for me.)

Maybe they should stop and think about what they say and repeat.
 
That's a very fine line to tread when the club have a knife at its throat over its governance.

Enhancing a media pile on as a backdrop to our case being heard is not great strategy for anyone looking to continue to court favour in their efforts to unseat the board (though incredibly these people seem to have respect still for the owner...which underlines how bizarre they can be for me.)

Maybe they should stop and think about what they say and repeat.
Enhancing a media pile on? It’s discussing a huge issue with a huge football club.
People shouldn’t discus it because it might …well what?

what are they saying that’s untrue?
 
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Maybe I'm off here but I don't hear any discussion about Man City and their alleged breaches of regulations?

I generally tend to keep off sports/social media but I didn't have to try hard to hear plenty of opinion about Everton's situation this past fortnight. As much as I abhor the current board and their mismanagement of the club, any significant sanction hurts the club and the supporters, not them individually.

It would be fine if you could separate the sins from the sinner but they are one and the same. It's Everton that are in the dock here. Not Moshiri, not Kenwright. I'd be all for it if the end result was running them out of town with a fresh start under new ownership. We are run by incompetent and egotistical buffoons but the one area above all others now where I pray they can get their act together just for once is in their engagement of the very best professional representation to give us the best possible chance at the hearing.

It would be foolhardy to say there's nothing to see here as far as Everton are concerned but that would be fine and dandy if it was Everton in isolation. As much as questions and due process are legitimate, it is also legitimate to ask why now, and why in the context of a two-year period of co-operation with the Premier League.

I absolutely and 100% desire new ownership and the most savage cull possible at boardroom and executive management level for our club. But we are being targeted here at a politically expedient time for those would would see us further weakened and damaged. What fair punishment could Everton reasonably absorb? Do they want us out of business? Are Everton to be the sacrificial lamb for three decades worth of dubious practices and and a complete and utter disregard for ethics and morality such that the dogs in the street know about it?

I can only hope that the commission come to conclude in practical terms that any significant sanction is akin to setting fire to a 145 year old bastion of English football. That they take the expedient solution of extending our period on the watchlist with a final warning. They have, after all, tried to steer the club towards a more sustainable position. With some slow progress made and more to come, and the move to the stadium, if they want to crush us, then it will be a decision they will have willingly taken.
 
I don’t have an issue with someone with no connection to the club articulating a position as an observer, he is a footballing finance ‘expert’ after all, if so they seek a rise in their stock off the back of our poor financial management so be it. They are footballing industry commentators. Regardless of where their allegiances may or may not lie, the club should not put itself in a position to be shot at.

I do however have an issue with so called evertonians drawing attention to it…..we all know it’s been a sh1t show so what is the objective beyond stating the obvious and illustrating with hypothetical numbers (because we don’t currently know what the exact allegations are) other than to draw a wider audience and build an audience base?

It certainly can’t be in the club‘s interest to keep pushing the same narrative. It’s those people whose motives I question who profess to love the club. Let due process unfold….the club is big enough to defend itself without self indulgent fans pouring fuel to the flames.

Drawing attention to it? It's headline news!

What about the happy clappers.... were they self indulgent too? Saying nothing for years and allowing these clowns to run the club into the ground? Forever saying it's never a time to protest.... Regardless of the outcome of the commision, we will still be hamstrung with debt. If the worst happens and we have a points deduction and are relegated this year or next, it could finish us. No-one is pouring fuel except those responsible for starting the fire.
 

Why are they experts? If they possess all the information to pass judgement then that would make them experts. They dont.

I'm not overly impressed by a bean counter who's clearly more motivated in boosting his media profile and probably his income than getting at any 'truth'.
You can either engage in the discussion or abstain , but merely engaging in ad hominem attacks add nothing of substance either way.
 
Drawing attention to it? It's headline news!

What about the happy clappers.... were they self indulgent too? Saying nothing for years and allowing these clowns to run the club into the ground? Forever saying it's never a time to protest.... Regardless of the outcome of the commision, we will still be hamstrung with debt. If the worst happens and we have a points deduction and are relegated this year or next, it could finish us. No-one is pouring fuel except those responsible for starting the fire.
The last line isn't true, there are vultures picking the bones from this story left right and center. You don't have to be a sycophant of the board to believe there are an awful amount of bluffers pretending they know what the outcome will be posting their guesswork as expertise. Its unchartered waters for the PL
 
Obviously this is a hugely emotive subject for us as Everton fans. It’s a rubbish period for the club that continues a few decades of being rubbish. And the future is scary. I’m terrified by what relegation could do to us at this stage.

But there needs to be some sensible reflection on what is going on too. There is no media pile on, it’s just that we are a big story at the moment. This happens to any big club when there is a story. It’s not a “pile on”. Man City had it when their charges came out. Newcastle had it with the Saudi takeover. Chelsea had it with Abramovich having to sell. It just happens, it’s part of the media cycle. And the media cycle is relentless now as it is fully 24/7/365. And of course we are going to notice stories about Everton more than other teams. So it makes it seem even worse.

As for experts (which are weirdly being treated in a very Goveian fashion by some), of course they are going to talk about it. It’s their job. Our accounts are a mess. That is what they are all saying. I don’t think PED retweeting or fans drawing attention to that is going to make the independent commission suddenly go “wait a second, I hadn’t seen this insignificant tweet. Changes everything. 12 point deduction, transfer ban and huge fine!”.

Let’s just wait and see until we know exactly what the charges are and why they have been made.
 

I don’t have an issue with someone with no connection to the club articulating a position as an observer, he is a footballing finance ‘expert’ after all, if so they seek a rise in their stock off the back of our poor financial management so be it. They are footballing industry commentators. Regardless of where their allegiances may or may not lie, the club should not put itself in a position to be shot at.

I do however have an issue with so called evertonians drawing attention to it…..we all know it’s been a sh1t show so what is the objective beyond stating the obvious and illustrating with hypothetical numbers (because we don’t currently know what the exact allegations are) other than to draw a wider audience and build an audience base?

It certainly can’t be in the club‘s interest to keep pushing the same narrative. It’s those people whose motives I question who profess to love the club. Let due process unfold….the club is big enough to defend itself without self indulgent fans pouring fuel to the flames.

If you think censorship is the answer something Bill Kenwright knows all about

Then you're grossly mistaken

We've had years of Bill Kenwright and his lot trying to tell people what they can and can't say or talk about

Enough is enough of that
 
Kieran Maguire. That feller has way too much to say for himself for my liking. That's the sound of a feller who likes the sound of his own voice and seems to be basking in a bit of publicity he's managed to drum up around this Everton referal.

Alarm bells started to ring on him when he got involved on TalkSport prognosticating on what punishment Everton would get when asked by Jim White. Now any professional and cautious man would have straight batted that hack question all day. But he decided he'd be railroaded into a response of the sensational variety to please the host and his listeners.

Any authourity that feller laid claim to went out the window at that moment. And now he's continuing to try and make a name for himself by revealing private conversations he had with Everton so he can boost some poxy podcast...all the while saying he has 'nothing against Everton and I want the best for them'.

That's an utter spanner right there. Take no notice to what that self-promoting idiot has to say.

And WTF is PED giving the oxygen of publicity to him and his dodgy views for...and then backing him up?

Un'kinreal some people. Talk about not being able to read the room...which underlines for me that some Evertonians cant see the wood for the trees anymore on this.

I think it bizarre you of all people are advocating Censorship

You know precisely that's gone on at and around Everton for years

You can't have it both ways
 
It is clearly evident that our club is in a very poor position in almost every aspect both on and off the pitch.
It is that which concerns me and attempting to smear every commentator who voices a negative observation of our current predicament only serves to misdirect that concern.
By all means disagree with message but state what, in your opinion , is incorrect in what is stated rather than attempting to discredit the bearer.

100% this

Reminds me of the Ian Ross leaked emails on how Bill Kenwright and his people treat our fans and shareholders

Sometimes people may not like the truth

But it is still the truth. Something that under the corruption of Bill Kenwright, Everton has lost

Needs now more than ever
 
Enhancing a media pile on? It’s discussing a huge issue with a huge football club.
People shouldn’t discus it because it might …well what?

what are they saying that’s untrue?
It's not discussing it, it's emphasising Everton as a basket case against the background of a massive decision to be made about any possible punishment the club might get. If you dont believe enough of that such talk can contribute to the outcome - or at least MSM's framing of this case as the commission begins to sit then go and take a look at that ian Herbert adrticle in the Daily Heil three days ao.

Stop being so 'kin 'right on'.
 
I think it bizarre you of all people are advocating Censorship

You know precisely that's gone on at and around Everton for years

You can't have it both ways
How many points do you want deducted Damo? I asked you this a few weeks back and you didn't answer. What would suffice to punish Everton and Evertonians and help expedite the board's departure to keep you happy?

Be careful what you wish for.
 

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