Financial Fair Play investigation

[mikel_88]

The PL signed off on the accounts. The Athletic suggested that certain transfers in were also blocked, not this summer but previously. There has been ongoing co-operation. I don't expect a smoking gun to emerge at this stage and if there was, it would reflect very poorly on the Premier League. The club can only answer to the specified charge.

The optics look good since in terms of belt tightening. Their representatives will make much of that at the hearing.

I expect a financial sanction but nothing more severe than that.

That is what it should be if guilty have not broke any transfer rules is about money to the stadium. So should be a fine

 

[Verbal Kint]

The PL signed off on the accounts. The Athletic suggested that certain transfers in were also blocked, not this summer but previously. There has been ongoing co-operation. I don't expect a smoking gun to emerge at this stage and if there was, it would reflect very poorly on the Premier League. The club can only answer to the specified charge.

The optics look good since in terms of belt tightening. Their representatives will make much of that at the hearing.

I expect a financial sanction but nothing more severe than that.

Considering we've had windows when Dennis Straq on a free was all we could afford I could live with that.

Thanks Bill.....

 

[GN!]

The PL signed off on the accounts. The Athletic suggested that certain transfers in were also blocked, not this summer but previously. There has been ongoing co-operation. I don't expect a smoking gun to emerge at this stage and if there was, it would reflect very poorly on the Premier League. The club can only answer to the specified charge.

The optics look good since in terms of belt tightening. Their representatives will make much of that at the hearing.

I expect a financial sanction but nothing more severe than that.

It would be so premier league to impose a financial sanction to a club having financial difficulty.

I think the conduct of recent times may count for a lot, perhaps a restricted transfer ban might be appropriate, something like we can only spend on players in the window to the value that we bring in on player sales in the summer window with suspended fines and a suspended 2 yr total transfer ban

 

[Groucho]

That is what it should be if guilty have not broke any transfer rules is about money to the stadium. So should be a fine

Guilty? Of what charge?

Eating a meallllll? A succulent Uzbekistani-Iranian fusion meallllll?

AH, I see you know your football finances well.

 

[Tom Hughes]

That is what it should be if guilty have not broke any transfer rules is about money to the stadium. So should be a fine

Profit and sustainability includes stadium and other loans.... if the stadium is gifted by the owner, then no problem. I think that's the distinction between FFP (player sales/wages etc) and P&S.

 

[allen]

The PL signed off on the accounts. The Athletic suggested that certain transfers in were also blocked, not this summer but previously. There has been ongoing co-operation. I don't expect a smoking gun to emerge at this stage and if there was, it would reflect very poorly on the Premier League. The club can only answer to the specified charge.

The optics look good since in terms of belt tightening. Their representatives will make much of that at the hearing.

I expect a financial sanction but nothing more severe than that.

Yes, I suspect our abject failure on the pitch - coupled with the extreme budget cuts in terms of transfer fees and wages - means there's less motivation to halt any ongoing miscreant behaviour. We've done that ourselves.

But equally, we're exactly the right size and shape of football club for the authorities to use us as an example.

That's not just Evertonian paranoia: we're exactly big enough for people to notice and not big enough for the wider football world to care about what happens to us. There will be no desire from the government to defend us from excessive punishment, either. They care about Merseyside less than anywhere else in the UK.

I just want this all over with.

 

[blueblueskies]

Yes, I suspect our abject failure on the pitch - coupled with the extreme budget cuts in terms of transfer fees and wages - means there's less motivation to halt any ongoing miscreant behaviour. We've done that ourselves.

But equally, we're exactly the right size and shape of football club for the authorities to use us as an example.

That's not just Evertonian paranoia: we're exactly big enough for people to notice and not big enough for the wider football world to care about what happens to us. There will be no desire to defend us from excessive punishment by the government, either. They care about Merseyside less than anywhere else in the UK.

I just want this all over with.

I’m with you on wanting this done with but what punishment are we facing from the Government?

 

[allen]

I’m with you on wanting this done with but what punishment are we facing from the Government?

None that I'm aware of. What I mean is, they won't be putting their thumbs on any scales to help us out - as they did with Newcastle and the Saudis, for instance.

Edit: I see the confusion, have edited my original message to clarify. I meant the government wouldn't look to help us get more lenient punishment.

 

[blueblueskies]

None that I'm aware of. What I mean is, they won't be putting their thumbs on any scales to help us out - as they did with Newcastle and the Saudis, for instance.

Ok that makes sense and is probably right unfortunately

 

[micknick]

Guilty? Of what charge?

Eating a meallllll? A succulent Uzbekistani-Iranian fusion meallllll?

AH, I see you know your football finances well.

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[f.t.r.s]

Still can't get my head round the fact we live in a world where the solution to not having enough money/losing too much money is to sanction a party with am additional fine....

 

[Market trader]

If the Commission, or someone, leaked its likely verdict to a group engaged in a takeover, that would be passing on inside information and would be corrupt and possibly fraudulent and criminal. Unlikely, I think.

 

[Caolam]

I think that if we are found guilty of breaches of FFP then those who were responsible for those breaches should be held accountable and debarred from holding positions within the club. Target those who were responsible and get them out of the club so they can’t do it again, that is if we are guilty. If not then just get rid of Kenwright because he has made a mess of the club.

 

[Paul Rideout]

Good point.

I'm still dreading this decision coming up though.

IF it was a big penalty (even a transfer embargo) it'd have a terrible effect on the morale of this club. Points deductions would kill us.

Points deduction but we survive would see heads fall off.

 

[davek]

Points deduction but we survive would see heads fall off.

It would, but it'd be impossible IMO.

It'd be a minimum 10 points and I can't see us on 4 points right now adding another 45 to potentially see us safe. That would be a mountain to climb.

There should be nothing but a fine, but I get the feeling that for months the MSM have been piling on the expectation that we should and will get something more draconian and that the PL commission will be aware of that and not want to look 'soft'.