Yes, totally clear it was leaked on purpose to try and show PL are taking it serious. Also to drive an agenda to stop the Premier League losing power in this government review of football governance which we all know is a mess. We are the sacrificial lamb for the PL to keep hold of 100% power by showing that they take things seriously....
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Imho i dont think there will be any point deduction. If we get 12 points, then City and some others are screwed. Likely City will end up in the National league.
Have we been found innocent yet?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
It'd be the most natural thing in the world to do to make do and mend with what you have.
Dyche will know roughly by now what we're getting. For sure.
If it's anything like a points deduction in excess of 5/6 points and he's sent out a full strength team with Brighton 3 days away that would be a dereliction of duty IMO.
The Brighton game and any other PL game in that circumstance HAD to be prioritised.
God knows when they will publish the results of this fiasco. Even once the results are published there is more fiasco for the commision to decide any punishment. The PL can only suggest a penalty, the commission decides the actual one.
Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
Yes - Maybe he wanted to win the game, the closer we get to the final, same way as i expect a strong team v Fulham as a semi final place is up for Graps. You cant be thinking a team selection is based on something that has not been said, and when it is said we will more than likely know before its public as almost impossible not to know the result before its given
WestStandLower
Player Valuation: £1.5m
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I am concerned what comes down the line particularly around the potential incoming charge.
With regard to the length of contracts yes 8 years is a long old time but then many thought 3 year contracts were a disaster waiting to happen and then 5 year became the norm and ironically Chelsea were no where near the only club or indeed first offering up contracts in excess of 5 years.
I saw a stat the other day that the number of players that a club pays a fee for that go on to extend their stay post the initial contract period is in excess of 80%. In other words historically the evidence is that a significant number of players have their fee amortised over a period exceeding 5 years the changes already announced many think will impact just Chelsea its impact is far wider than just one club
Do I think that it’s wise to offer so long contracts? Not really but:
On one hand I can almost see the logic in that you protect the value of your asset you know years in advance what you player budget will be and minimise on going agents fees and of course you wrestle back a certain amount of control whereby players leaving on a free will be reduced even further.
On the other hand there is a risk that players who fail will indeed sit out their contracts and yes that’s a big risk but you run that risk with all players on a contract there are very few examples of players that won’t go out on loan or agree to be moved but one springs to mind is Winston Bogarde who was a cluster [Poor language removed] for us.
To have so many on long contracts is a massive departure from normal convention in English football but in other sports it’s common place particularly in the US and Real Madrid have long since signed players on contracts post 5 years
As I pointed out yesterday in my mind there is a major flaw with FFP in that a player going out on loan takes their charge to amortisation with them so I would expect that as clubs and yes like us with Strasbourg but more along the City model where there are clubs within the same ownership who owners can shift players out on loan then there is yet another get out of jail card.
Chelsea made a huge mistake with Kepa and no doubt Lukaku both bought for huge fees both now out on loan and whilst I have no idea of the agreements re their wages and or fees if these two players amortised fees havent been impaired shifted £30+ million off the FFP charge
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Just want to know the outcome asap.
It does seem like we're being softened up for a deduction of 6 points or thereabouts.
If that's avoided then for the first time since Benitez left, we might be able to look forward to a scenario where we can aim for mid-table comfort, a cup QF to look forward to as well.
Of course that tells me that there will be a massive spanner in the works.
It wouldn't be Everton otherwise and by now I'm 100% conditioned to thinking that way.
It does seem like we're being softened up for a deduction of 6 points or thereabouts.
If that's avoided then for the first time since Benitez left, we might be able to look forward to a scenario where we can aim for mid-table comfort, a cup QF to look forward to as well.
Of course that tells me that there will be a massive spanner in the works.
It wouldn't be Everton otherwise and by now I'm 100% conditioned to thinking that way.
Jeff Jones
Player Valuation: £35m
I can't get my head around the prospect of one of the original 12 clubs, with the longest serving time in the top flight including
69 continuous seasons, not a yo-yo club, and having invested in and about to move into a magnificent new stadium could be faced with a penalty likely to relegate it and possibly send it into administration for having spent too much money a few years ago.
69 continuous seasons, not a yo-yo club, and having invested in and about to move into a magnificent new stadium could be faced with a penalty likely to relegate it and possibly send it into administration for having spent too much money a few years ago.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The context is all important here though. Yes, he'd want to win. But as said he'll roughly be aware of what's coming at Everton (if anything) from the PL Commission.
To me he'd have been exceptionally irresponsible to play that team last night if he knows we'll need something like 50 points this season to survive.
That's my take on last night in relation to this FFP investigation.
WestStandLower
Player Valuation: £1.5m
Not dismissing what influenced his team selection last night but whatever his motives it clearly paid off.
That said surely the commission have to put in the public domain details of their judgement as soon as the PL and Everton are advised . The one thing I personally hope is that the PL irrespective of the outcome don’t appeal
Cool_Blue
Player Valuation: £35m
But would we appeal? Would we have grounds to?
REPLY FROM THE PL to my email about FFP
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I hope this helps to explain our position.
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I hope this helps to explain our position.
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WestStandLower
Player Valuation: £1.5m
Really depends. Of course you won’t appeal if it’s not proven or maybe not if it’s proven and any sanction is insignificant
Written reasons for the decision won’t be issued at time of the imminent announcement and my guess would be till they are Everton and or the PL will just put out holding statements
Both parties could in theory appeal one against the ruling and the other against the punishment
I thought that 12 points is the maximum? If so then no matter how guilty City are they'd get 12 points max.
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