Football is coming home, Euro 2024 Final, England v Spain(Sunday 8pm)

[PITA]

Of course happy as a Spanish, but good game for my English fellows here.

Good game. Best team won. Congratulations.

 

[Billy Dean]

Which part.

Round Brighton way

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Just like how it's already being overstated how Watkins and Toney are the answer to this problem, where they'd be equally as donkeypoo.

They wouldn’t. Stuart Barlow would have been better for England because at least he would keep the Spanish defenders honest.

 

[DualityNSNO]

They wouldn’t. Stuart Barlow would have been better for England because at least he would keep the Spanish defenders honest.

Yeah, Watkins kept them so honest in his appearance, they were practically shivering.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Just like how it's already being overstated how Watkins and Toney are the answer to this problem, where they'd be equally as donkeypoo.

I’m 50/50 on it. As I said it’s a question of doing the job required.

 

[carlos21]

Round Brighton way

Very nice mate.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I’m 50/50 on it. As I said it’s a question of doing the job required.

Job required: score goals.
Structure given to the players: some nonsense that doesn't work.

 

[Nymzee]

You're right, but they're also with the same limitations - no idea why we're pretending that Ivan Toney is some dynamic powerhouse of a forward, likewise Watkins. Both are far from it, like Kane, but also actually worse as players.

Also feels like a no brainer to build the team at least partially to function well for one of the best players on your team, but that's not the England/Southgate way, I know.

My main issues with Kane and England:

His entire game these days is playing more of a 10/CF by collecting deep and trying to link play and as such he is not in the box when we need him, nor does he have the pace to get there. He's also then occupying zones of the pitch where our best two attacking mids (Foden and Bellingham) want to operate. It means the opposition CB's have nothing to do and is why we looked SO bad up against a few bad teams that used 3 at the back.

Watkins runs deep constantly and Toney is a belting target man. Both occupy 1-2 CB's, are a nightmare to defend against, and also don't clog up the space for the attacking mids.

If Kane starts, we need two very wide players (Gordon and Saka) and then a midfielder to break beyond but can't have Foden and Jude behind.

If we want Foden and Bellingham central Kane cannot start.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Yeah, Watkins kept them so honest in his appearance, they were practically shivering.

Kane touched the ball about 30 times in the entire tournament. He was absolute fire in every game. Any time England broke he was no where to be seen. It’s absolutely baffling that anyone thinks he was the right person to lead the line but each to their own I suppose. I just think generally it’s beneficial to have a striker that can actually move.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Job required: score goals.
Structure given to the players: some nonsense that doesn't work.

Can’t score if you aren’t in the box ya know?

I mean you can but it’s harder

 

[PITA]

I mean this is exactly why the USAMNTEKTNEMTNMENTEM isn't good, if that's your genuine opinion and experience from a pivot role

You are a quality poster. Why do you engage with the US dope?

 

[Nymzee]

@TheBigIguana hey mate I see you keep replying to everyone but my pictures, care to comment

 

[NeilMorepies]

 

[Rita_Poon]

Pace of this.

 

[pfim]

Yeah, Watkins kept them so honest in his appearance, they were practically shivering.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that if Watkins or Toney got the majority of the minutes, the team would have scored more goals. That doesn’t make them better players, but better fits.

By the same token if you put Gordon and Rashford on either side of Kane, they score more goals as well. Too much focus on putting the best 11 players on the pitch