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paulbefc said:
No, but apparently the law isn't exactly the same for attackers as it is for defenders. I think in that case, literally any contact (from an attacker) in the build-up means a goal can't be given.
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It is, they're just giving one example and it happens to be an attacking one.
 
Tubey said:
Except no it doesn't. It boils down to fact.

Your team are literally reigning European Champions and top of the league - why are you here?
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The referees are there to interpret the rules. That’s the only fact. It’s not black and white for many things in Football and never has been, VAR doesn’t change that.

I’m obviously here for the witty conversation.
 

It is totally blatant,however we have only ourselves to blame, we have been a "soft touch" for years now, accepting garbage decisions every time and never highlighting these clowns incompetence ever with typical Everton "good grace",they walk all over us and probably laugh their socks off at us.
 
Tubey said:
It does.

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It only makes the point about advantage in terms of attacking the ball and scoring as the example. It literally says "e.g." - it's just one example. A defensive advantage is deflecting the ball away from the original angle.

It says "It is natural for a player to put their arm between their body and the ground for support when falling - having the hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a 'natural position."

To be blunt, it's saying that "yeah, if you're ragdolled into the air, we accept there's a situation where your hands can go anywhere as you fall" - but that's all it is saying. It is not excusing just putting your arms in the air - in fact, the very reason the rule exists is for that tonight; it's a textbook definition of the change.
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So we do need a defensive advantage gained here. In Alli's case there was no "major advantage" gained. That was my point. He didn't gain possession/control of the ball. In fact the contact was virtually inconsequential.
 

Tubey said:

What's new in 2019/20: Handball rule change

See the main law amendments that Premier League players and fans will need to be aware in 2019/20
www.premierleague.com www.premierleague.com

Another big change is to do with the position of a player's hand/arm.

If the ball hits a player who has made their body "unnaturally bigger" then a foul will be awarded.

IFAB says that having the hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a "natural" position and a player is "taking a risk" by having the hand/arm in that position


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It's a clear penalty.
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There is absolutely NO F doubt.

Ali's movement overall is to prevent Mina getting a free header.
He is totally out of his depth against Mina, in terms of size, height and skill in defending it.
Advantage Everton.
Ali compensates by leaning back into Mina and getting as high as he can by lifting his arms.
He takes the risk. He has to really.

This 'usually' thing obviously allows for unfair handballs to be overturned.
But in no way could this apply here.
 
Football has eaten itself whole by over sanitizing it, the sport has turned into an utter zero contact, finance leveraged, overly politically correct, false moraled, bore fest.

Far removed from the competitive games, I remember, not even that long ago.

Just want two honest teams going at it he’ll for leather, with 11 vs 11 from their own academies.
 
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