2021/22 Frank Lampard

[Brennan]

Being responsible for 118 employees is not a great deal, when you have managers under you.
Have you not heard of the chain of command and delegation.
Where have I ever said all 118 reported DIRECTLY to me

Can you post your LinkedIn so we can connect

 

[PhilM]

But when this kind of situation happens. Isn't it on us as fans as well to show a bit more understanding and patience? We can blame the owners all we want but it doesn't help when we hound out a manager who did pretty well in his first season after a bad start to his second.

You could call me a hypocrite because I want lampard out. But the reason I want him out is because I strongly feel he's taking us down and a more astute experienced manager would have had us pretty much safe already. Relegation could be the end of this club and keeping Lampard in this situation is not a sensible idea.

So we shouldn't hound out managers - being understanding and patient - but we should sack Lampard and be impatient and show no understanding?

Some even may say that the emphasis on 'astute and experienced' manager could have meant Benitez, but let's look at how that panned out.

I don't know if Lampard is the man and some recent performances, especially away, have been lacklustre, however the common denominator is the squad.

 

[johnjoeefc]

So we shouldn't hound out managers - being understanding and patient - but we should sack Lampard and be impatient and show no understanding?

Some even may say that the emphasis on 'astute and experienced' manager could have meant Benitez, but let's look at how that panned out.

I don't know if Lampard is the man and some recent performances, especially away, have been lacklustre, however the common denominator is the squad.

Yes because if we get relegated then that could and possibly will be the end of the club as we know it. And could be a leeds/Sunderland situation.

Whereas in the case of Silva for example, we were never going down, we were just looking at a possible bottom half finish.

Lampard had wasted games trying formations and ways of playing that haven't suited the players. That is detrimental to the club right now.

 

[PhilM]

Yes because if we get relegated then that could and possibly will be the end of the club as we know it. And could be a leeds/Sunderland situation.

Whereas in the case of Silva for example, we were never going down, we were just looking at a possible bottom half finish.

Lampard had wasted games trying formations and ways of playing that haven't suited the players. That is detrimental to the club right now.

Who do we bring in who'll guarantee to keep us up? If we're going to change managers at this point, it'd have to be someone who is likely to do this.

Additionally, removing his Lampard and his team will be costly, while appointing a new manager comes with expenses. Can our finances afford such a risk?

Will they (said manager) take a short-term contract? If there were longer term options available, why didn't we take them in January?

I'm not saying Lampard is the ideal choice or will keep us up, however I really do not see what other sensible option we actually have.

 

[Baines' left foot]

Think I had 600 staff working with me atast count mate. I never once mentioned it on here though, mostly because I’d get called a hideous Tory.

I was responsible the the movement and safety of 800 people on a central London construction site in my last role.

But you don’t hear us bragging do you cheeks? That would be very Tory indeed.

 

[APN_EFC]

Now that we've moved on to the Tories, did anyone hear that beaut suggest a 'Margaret Thatcher Day'...that would be just hilarious in Liverpool. Almost worth agreeing to that just for the laughs. (but no not really)

 

[rockin' robin]

Now that we've moved on to the Tories, did anyone hear that beaut suggest a 'Margaret Thatcher Day'...that would be just hilarious in Liverpool. Almost worth agreeing to that just for the laughs. (but no not really)

Think a Margaret Thatcher day would be brilliant myself as long as it is a bank holiday. We can all have a jolly knees up and celebrate her ahem, passing, and let the rest of the country and the world know what we think of her ?

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Yes because if we get relegated then that could and possibly will be the end of the club as we know it. And could be a leeds/Sunderland situation.

Whereas in the case of Silva for example, we were never going down, we were just looking at a possible bottom half finish.

Lampard had wasted games trying formations and ways of playing that haven't suited the players. That is detrimental to the club right now.

You’re just making wild assumptions.

Newcastle went down, came back up. Villa went down for 3 seasons, even finished 13tg in the first one. And look at them now, mid table spending money. 400mil apparently in like 3yrs

 

[johnjoeefc]

You’re just making wild assumptions.

Newcastle went down, came back up. Villa went down for 3 seasons, even finished 13tg in the first one. And look at them now, mid table spending money. 400mil apparently in like 3yrs

I think if you listen to people in the know like the esk and other such people. They will tell you that If we don't come straight back up then the club is pretty much doomed

 

[DanB90]

I think if you listen to people in the know like the esk and other such people. They will tell you that If we don't come straight back up then the club is pretty much doomed

 

[RomanReigns]

The Eskimo is a bigger charlatan than our players

 

[Toffeelover]

I am with DaveK, I support Lampard. I do hope he manages to save us from relegation and thus have a whole new season to start with. That will be far better than inheriting messes left behind by previous managers.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Think today will be the day the worm turns for us. Lampard to see us to safety then the cull begins.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

I think if you listen to people in the know like the esk and other such people. They will tell you that If we don't come straight back up then the club is pretty much doomed

The esk ITK ? ? likes he’s never got things wrong in the past

I’d rather listen to John Blain his mate from business matters, who id argue knows more what’s going on at the club than the Esk who lives in America.

Blain obviously will also tell you the situation isn’t great, but he’s a lot more balanced in his views.

I listened to a space on Friday night with the Esk, and in 20mins he said 3 things that I didn’t agree with and were wrong imo.

1) losing usm sponsorship is catastrophic, it’s 20mil max, we will still get sponsorship in the championship, ok may be 4/5mil at best. But loosing just the 4 out of contract players saves us over 30mil.

2) said Aston Villa lost 56mil from covid, Everton over 180mil and was questioning how we can put this amount through the books
Well a very well respected journalist tweeted this on Friday afternoon, questioning how we’ve lost more than villa. His figures 56mil villa 86 mil Everton. So I’m not sure where the esk got his figures from. But he is captain scaremonger

3) was trying to tell everyone listening how bad relegation is as we get 45mil parachute payment first year, 25mil 2nd year 15mil 3rd year. But 130mil if we stay in the prem. another blue on the space said it’s 55% first year 45% 2nd 25% 3rd. Which id 100% right This was before the Esk said his figures.
Well 55% is 71mil 45% 58mil.
I’m sure the esk is a nice fella and knows about business, but he constantly paints the worst picture possible imo.

 

[Grim Weeper]

"It needs to be highlighted"

Everyone knows there's a lack of mental strength - that's nothing new - as I said Ancelotti said it, as did Benitez. Club captain too. This teams form fell of a cliff under Ancelotti. Benitez first 13 league games, were equal to Ancelotti's last 13. We sacked Benitez a few league games later.

In his first couple of weeks Lampard was quick to brush off what was before him, and rightly so. He said he wouldn't be in the job if everything before him was fine. He was now Everton manager, and he come in with us 16th, 4 points from relegation with a game in hand. He had 18 games to play. Refreshing.

What's happened, is Lampard has started to consistently talk about what was before him as an excuse. It's self preservation, protecting himself, his PR.





^ All that and more.

Lampard is very clever, perhaps so much so that a lot of fans can't see it but for me, he has to pack it in with the narrative/talking about what was before him and embrace the here and now. There's no time for licking wounds, or even worse - self preservation when in a relegation scrap.

If Lampard wants to keep talking about what was before him, then maybe he could start being asked why under him we're averaging less points per game, scoring less and conceding more under him than what was before him.

Couldn’t agree more.

Everyone knows there’s truth in it, but nobody needs to hear it, and all it does is give excuses.

Like his comments after palace. Fair enough we know what he said is spot on right but where does he go now if things don’t get better? What does he say next?

He’s here, and he’s in charge. It’s his job to set up the team with a plan to get results, and you only need to look at hodgson to see it’s possible to look like the plan is in place even when the results don’t go your way.

If the team loses that Palace game, or the spurs thumping, but was competitive and looks like it’s going in the right direction, he wouldn’t need the words, but so far he’s failing to make it look like he has the right plan, and failing to make it look like he can inspire these players.

Yes, they’re crap. And yes, it’s on them as much if not more than Frank, but… he’s paid to inspire, and to put a plan in place and so far he’s not showing that, so I’d rather hear a damn sight less of his excuses.