2021/22 Frank Lampard

[catcherintherye]

To play a high press you need that athleticism and pace across the squad, from the front.

We don't have the squad to do it - clear as day from the Spurs and Palace games.

There's a reason it tends to be only the very top teams who play with a high line/press.

It sort of remind me of Marco Silvas Everton really. At times we would look great, but at other moments we would look fragile.

He kind of developed a bit of a compromise at the end of season 1, which really worked for him, which he sort of abandoned (or couldn't make effective without Gana).

I sort of hope Lampard has done the same with this 2 weeks.

 

[davek]

It sort of remind me of Marco Silvas Everton really. At times we would look great, but at other moments we would look fragile.

He kind of developed a bit of a compromise at the end of season 1, which really worked for him, which he sort of abandoned (or couldn't make effective without Gana).

I sort of hope Lampard has done the same with this 2 weeks.

He lost the plot over that transfer.

He was right to want to retain him, but he really should have insisted on replacing him when he was told he was going. Gbamin was a disaster and it wasn't of Silva's making. There's a case to be made that we lost our way over that incident and never found our feet again as a club that wanted to bring in a new type of governance.

 

[catcherintherye]

He lost the plot over that transfer.

He was right to want to retain him, but he really should have insisted on replacing him when he was told he was going. Gbamin was a disaster and it wasn't of Silva's making. There's a case to be made that we lost our way over that incident and never found our feet again as a club that wanted to bring in a new type of governance.

Yes, an unfortunate set of circumstances really. Gana goes, Gana is replaced by Delph and Gbamin, who both get injured. He loses his assistant manager. Then we get a string of awful VAR decisions in tight matches. Gomes gets snapped etc etc.

It just wasnt meant to be.

 

[Death]

Would something like this be appropriate for our situation?
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HahahahHahha that's so apt. Can you imagine him standing on the touchline waving the sicle at Coleman when he gets skinned.. no but seriously its very dark imagery that has no place on the sidelines.

What? If Frank can wear my garbs I can adopt his quick transitions.

 

[johnjoeefc]

Yes, an unfortunate set of circumstances really. Gana goes, Gana is replaced by Delph and Gbamin, who both get injured. He loses his assistant manager. Then we get a string of awful VAR decisions in tight matches. Gomes gets snapped etc etc.

It just wasnt meant to be.

But when this kind of situation happens. Isn't it on us as fans as well to show a bit more understanding and patience? We can blame the owners all we want but it doesn't help when we hound out a manager who did pretty well in his first season after a bad start to his second.

You could call me a hypocrite because I want lampard out. But the reason I want him out is because I strongly feel he's taking us down and a more astute experienced manager would have had us pretty much safe already. Relegation could be the end of this club and keeping Lampard in this situation is not a sensible idea.

 

[Rook]

But when this kind of situation happens. Isn't it on us as fans as well to show a bit more understanding and patience?

If we hired Sliva mid-season this year we'd probably show more patience. In 2019 we thought the manager was holding us back. Today after cycling though managers, most of the ire is, deservingly so, on the players.

 

[JLW]

Can we Richarlison wide today as hes gash up front with this team

 

[chicoazul]

Being responsible for 118 employees is not a great deal, when you have managers under you.
Have you not heard of the chain of command and delegation.
Where have I ever said all 118 reported DIRECTLY to me

Think I had 600 staff working with me atast count mate. I never once mentioned it on here though, mostly because I’d get called a hideous Tory.

 

[JLW]

Think I had 600 staff working with me atast count mate. I never once mentioned it on here though, mostly because I’d get called a hideous Tory.

That's a lot of journo's Keith

 

[chicoazul]

That's a lot of journo's Keith

The Economist expansion budget that year was most generous sir, let me tell thee. As you can tell they valued grammatical excellence.

 

[overkill]

But when this kind of situation happens. Isn't it on us as fans as well to show a bit more understanding and patience? We can blame the owners all we want but it doesn't help when we hound out a manager who did pretty well in his first season after a bad start to his second.

You could call me a hypocrite because I want lampard out. But the reason I want him out is because I strongly feel he's taking us down and a more astute experienced manager would have had us pretty much safe already. Relegation could be the end of this club and keeping Lampard in this situation is not a sensible idea.

I seen lampard as a massive gamble, because we're having to give a young inexperienced manager time to make mistakes and hopefully learn before games run out.

On the flip side though we had Benitez who was very experienced loosing game after game and making tactical errors almost every game.

 

[Caolam]

We simply can't keep sacking managers, we waste money and time in doing so. We bring them in, let them buy a couple of players to execute their game plan for the season, then we sack them, the new guy comes in tries to make up for the previous errors finds himself with a load of highly paid misfits that he doesn't want. That season is shot, we have wasted millions on players and now we compensate the sacked man. Added to the waste of money and time we get the reputation as a club who sacks the manager without giving them a fair chance. Who wants to manage such a club. We are now in the position were we have to agree any new signings with the league. The overall management of the club has been catastrophic. We are not an attractive proposition for any manager.
Do I believe Frank Lampard is the best manager in the league, no I don't, would I have picked him, no I wouldn't, do I think he can build a top team, no I don't. But he is here, we don't need a Prima Donna manager who can mould top class footballers into a unit and win the league, we need someone who can arrest our slide and get a preformance out of poor players who have no professional pride and who can't be bothered trying. We need someone who can steady the ship from a playing point of view until the overall management of the club is changed. Can Frank do that, yes I think he can. He might have to do it coming up from the Championship but I think he should be given three years to try.
We have tried sacking managers, it hasn't worked. It is time to realise that Everton aren't the club of the Holy Trinity, today we are a very poorly run club with a squad that the majority of whom couldn't get a place at another Premier League side. Another manager isn't going to come in and find a system that our players can play, they are such a mishmash that what suits one doesn't suit another, we need to go back to the drawing board and re-establish our culture, we need to forget about winning trophies for a while and try to re-build a once great club. Personally I can't see us doing it with this owner and Board, I had high hopes when the Club announced the review, but it now seems like a paper exercise designed to give the appearance of doing something rather than actually doing something.
I have no doubt that Everton Football Club will be back, the history, the city and the fans are all there to make it happen, it is a matter of when we rid ourselves of the people who have brought us to our knees.

 

[Drico]

The problem isn't sacking managers - it is appointing the wrong managers.

Every manager sacked under Moshiri - with the exception of Allardyce - had made his position untenable through results. Allardyce got the results he was hired to get. Whether one agrees that his hiring was necessary at the time is a different matter. I tend to think it was. But it would not have been had Moshiri actually lined up his preferred replacement for Koeman in time before resorting to Big Sam in panic.

But Martinez, Koeman, Silva, and Benitez effectively sacked themselves. Their results spoke volumes and they had to go. That said, Benitez spent 1.7 million, so one wonders why he bothered to accept this poisoned chalice in the first place if they were the ridiculous constraints he had to work under. Not that he helped himself by ridding the club of our better players and persisting with Iwobi and Gomes...

Lampard is currently getting untenable results too. People are patient only because we are out of plausible options. But if he takes us down, I don't see how he can remain in post - or even why he'd want to. His career is riding on these 11 games, just as our club's future is. Buckle up, people. We are on the rollercoaster, and it only goes in one direction: off a cliff.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

The problem isn't sacking managers - it is appointing the wrong managers.

Every manager sacked under Moshiri - with the exception of Allardyce - had made his position untenable through results. Allardyce got the results he was hired to get. Whether one agrees that his hiring was necessary at the time is a different matter. I tend to think it was. But it would not have been had Moshiri actually lined up his preferred replacement for Koeman in time before resorting to Big Sam in panic.

But Martinez, Koeman, Silva, and Benitez effectively sacked themselves. Their results spoke volumes and they had to go. That said, Benitez spent 1.7 million, so one wonders why he bothered to accept this poisoned chalice in the first place if they were the ridiculous constraints he had to work under. Not that he helped himself by ridding the club of our better players and persisting with Iwobi and Gomes...

Lampard is currently getting untenable results too. People are patient only because we are out of plausible options. But if he takes us down, I don't see how he can remain in post - or even why he'd want to. His career is riding on these 11 games, just as our club's future is. Buckle up, people. We are on the rollercoaster, and it only goes in one direction: off a cliff.

Lucky for Frankel that there are 3 awful teams below us who are as good as down already imo.

Burnleys hopes of a great escape ended the moment they took £25 millions for Wood who did bag a few goals for them in their set up.

 

[Drico]

Lucky for Frankel that there are 3 awful teams below us who are as good as down already imo.

Burnleys hopes of a great escape ended the moment they took £25 millions for Wood who did bag a few goals for them in their set up.

Well, it might be lucky for him and us this season if that remains the case, but if he is depending purely on there being three worse sides than us then if we don't fall this season we are odds-on to go next. If he is not up to it this season, he'll likely be rumbled by the "players" in the process and be primed for the drop next season. In my view, while staying up is ALL that matters now, if Lampard cannot keep us up on his own steam - without hoping Burnley and Watford do the job for us - then we need to sack yet another manager before he completes his job next season. These 11 games will expose everyone at this club. It's judgement time, Baby, and he's fighting for his job and reputation. If Norwich, Watford, Burnley, and ourselves lost every game from now to the end of the season, we'd stay up - but he'd simply have to go. This is his real audition for the job. Frank is basically driving in the Monaco Grand Prix without ever setting foot in a formula 1 car.