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2021/22 Frank Lampard

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I personally think we should stick. He's a good team behind him and we aren't attracting that in the championship. Part of me is also of the reasoning that they should be able to keep us up with the time they were given etc and could understand them being sacked if they fail to do that. But I dread to think who we'd attract instead. Rooney? lol

Your first point will mean that Moshiri never listens to the fans again about football matters. If we get relegated he can say he listened to us when he was about to appoint Periera and look where we ended up, thus fans know nothing.
The part in bold is what worries me, no matter how many reservations I may have about Lampard.
 
Exactly. Why would we keep somebody who will have palpably failed? He'll have zero credibility if he takes us down. He wasn't hired to oversee our relegation, so if he fails he'll simply have proven he was the wrong appointment. The man who came in after Benitez was tasked with ensuring our survival. It wasn't the most difficult task in the world. Frank is making it seem Herculean. I hope he is our manager next season...in the Premier League.
Are you for real? When you say it was not the most difficult task in the world have you been watching our games this season? The players are garbage and the number of mistakes they have made in games whilst Lampard has been in charge is unreal.
Lampard might not have been the first or perfect choice and he has made mistakes but the players errors at Newcastle,Southampton,West Ham and Burnley are not on him…we are a very poor team with a weak mentality and low resilience to setbacks and I am not sure many other managers could have done much more.
We have to stop changing managers every 5 minutes because it is mainly the playing staff,that has been poorly recruited over the last 5 years,that is is the issue….the Board issues compound it further.
 

We have to stop sacking managers.

I’m sure on paper in the Championship we could appoint managers who would be better for chasing promotion, but the merry go round of managers is a massive part of why this club is so broken.
The sackings will continue until the club stops making poor, ill-fitting appointments.

It's such a shame that Ancelotti walked, as by the sheer weight of his profile, he kept both Moshiri and the fans happy in the knowledge that having him here was seen as an accolade in and of itself. He could have even mitigated the useless recruitment department somewhat by bringing in one or two of his famous mates each summer (eg us thinking we were getting Isco). I think that was as good as it could ever reasonably be expected to get under this regime.

Sean Dyche, if we have sunk.
Grim.
 
The sackings will continue until the club stops making poor, ill-fitting appointments.

It's such a shame that Ancelotti walked, as by the sheer weight of his profile, he kept both Moshiri and the fans happy in the knowledge that having him here was seen as an accolade in and of itself. He could have even mitigated the useless recruitment department somewhat by bringing in one or two of his famous mates each summer (eg us thinking we were getting Isco). I think that was as good as it could ever reasonably be expected to get under this regime.


Grim.
There were many times we could have sacked Moyes, if we were applying the trigger happy nature of the modern Premier League.

A manager who has just led West Ham to a Europa League semi final.
 
There were many times we could have sacked Moyes, if we were applying the trigger happy nature of the modern Premier League.

A manager who has just led West Ham to a Europa League semi final.
Moyes ran the club from top to bottom, and was basically the lone bulwark between Kenwright's tinpot regime and the fans. There's no point comparing today with a situation that was a relic of an era before both the enormous TV money boom and Moshiri's investment, when Everton couldn't so much as buy a senior player between 2009-12.

My view is that the club is set up to fail off the field, so I can accept the idea that sacking Lampard will likely just kick the can down the road for another few of months. However, this implied suggestion that every manager will eventually have their Kendall throwing open the window moment if only they're given enough time isn't based on much more than that 'TA RA FERGIE' banner the United fans had up in '89.
 
Moyes ran the club from top to bottom, and was basically the lone bulwark between Kenwright's tinpot regime and the fans. There's no point comparing today with a situation that was a relic of an era before both the enormous TV money boom and Moshiri's investment, when Everton couldn't so much as buy a senior player between 2009-12.

My view is that the club is set up to fail off the field, so I can accept the idea that sacking Lampard will likely just kick the can down the road for another few of months. However, this implied suggestion that every manager will eventually have their Kendall throwing open the window moment if only they're given enough time isn't based on much more than that 'TA RA FERGIE' banner the United fans had up in '89.

Who has suggested every manager will end up like Kendall ?

The suggestion was we need to stop sacking managers at the rate we have, not that we need to give every manager five year contracts.
 

Who has suggested every manager will end up like Kendall ?

The suggestion was we need to stop sacking managers at the rate we have, not that we need to give every manager five year contracts.
Fair enough. I couldn't honestly say that I thought any of them have been dismissed too soon / unfairly, though. In most cases, the issue was that they shouldn't have been here in the first place.

I really wouldn't care if Lampard was allowed a crack at promotion (he was a terrible appointment for where we were in January, but maybe he'd do alright overseeing a rebuild), but I'd be amazed if he kept his job in the event of relegation.
 
We have to stop sacking managers.

I’m sure on paper in the Championship we could appoint managers who would be better for chasing promotion, but the merry go round of managers is a massive part of why this club is so broken.

we can’t go into that f n league. it’s never come back otherwise.

let’s stay up and see what lampard can do
 

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