billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
Sacking the manager again won't fix our problems look how many we have been through. Stay up or go down keep the same one for a few years
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Exactly. If we do go down we will have big decisions to make on each and every player, who can be relied on, who has the heart for a fight in the championship. Lampard, having watched them up close in a relegation battle will be best place to make that call. Another new manager is another clean slate for a squad that needs clearing out.Kinell, do we want to fully turn into Watford and sack managers every 6 months?!
Sooner sack the board and most of these players than the manager.
Great point.You only have to look how good Frank's home form is compared to the away form, see the results now with a positive Goodison to realise if the crowd had been supporting the players from week one we would not be in this mess.
Arsenal is a great example, we only got up for that reacting to half the Park End walking out, we should of been up for it anyway
Great post.Our home form was poor last season because of no fans (won the games where fans were allowed in).
Our home form was poor before January this season because the fans were on the managers case and the teams back. Lampard takes over and the fans have been right behind them and it's turned around. It's not a coincidence. There's not many grounds where the fans make a difference like at Goodison (and it can be good and bad). But we're still as rubbish away as under Benitez.
The team showed fight on Sunday, compare that to the derby game last December under your hero Benitez, you kopite twit.Unfortunately for us it's as simplistic as the league table. We can hardly say we've improved massively as we stare down the barrel of relegation.
Plus we fans are the ones that pushed for him whilst scoffing at the likes of Howe and Moyes. We’re a fickle bunch at timesI wasn't and still am not to sure about Lampard but if we sacked him who we gonna get in. No one gonna come here especially with all the [Poor language removed] that's going on. Plus if we go down think we will need a manager like him
I really don't see the benefit of sacking him and I'm saying this as someone who didn't rate him before he joined us and didn't really want us to hire him. But I think he deserves a chance to get us back up. He's built up a good backroom staff and has embraced the club and comes across as a good bloke. Hasn't got everything right but has been unlucky at times and also has shown signs of learning from errors. And generally sacking would make us even more of a laughing stock than we already are.Agree thats nothing other than the board hiding behind another manager but Frank hasn't help himself at times though imo. The only reason I can see would be to try and appoint a seasoned guy like Wilder (I'm not in anyway suggesting this) or someone else of that ilk who has previous experience of moving in between the 2 divisions. I really thought we had moved on from this constant sacking of managers and tbh I don't think it will go down that well with a lot of the fans.
I feel the same way.I wasn't and still am not to sure about Lampard but if we sacked him who we gonna get in. No one gonna come here especially with all the [Poor language removed] that's going on. Plus if we go down think we will need a manager like him
To what extent has this also hindered us over the years , changing manager so new evaluation of the players each time. So players who may not he in favour are suddenly square pegs that the new manager feels he has to make fit.Exactly. If we do go down we will have big decisions to make on each and every player, who can be relied on, who has the heart for a fight in the championship. Lampard, having watched them up close in a relegation battle will be best place to make that call. Another new manager is another clean slate for a squad that needs clearing out.
Give me Lampard, a proper football man with the hunger and desire to achieve as much as a manager as he did as a player, over any of the jesters we've had since Moyes.
Stay up or go down, we stick with this fella and build an actual team.
NUNO ??????I really don't see the benefit of sacking him and I'm saying this as someone who didn't rate him before he joined us and didn't really want us to hire him. But I think he deserves a chance to get us back up. He's built up a good backroom staff and has embraced the club and comes across as a good bloke. Hasn't got everything right but has been unlucky at times and also has shown signs of learning from errors. And generally sacking would make us even more of a laughing stock than we already are.
If he was to go I would think Nuno would be the top candidate to replace him.
But anyway IMO it's far more important to be looking at the infrastructure around the manager (Board, DOF, scouting, recruitment, medical, sport science etc). Until that is working properly any manager will find it difficult.
That's who I think would be in the frame if Frank were to go. Moshiri is a known admirer, has worked with Thelwell. Almost became our manager last summer. Has worked with big time agents being heavily involved in transfer business etcNUNO ??????
There’s no way anyone at the club have gave that to the press. Benitez apparently had the boards full backing up until the week he was sacked according to them.Press running that he'll be sacked if we get relegated. Not sure how I feel about that.