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2022/23 Frank Lampard

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Praying for a big result tonight. Not gonna lie, I really like Lampard. I hope he can be the fella to take us into BMD (in the prem!). Totally understand anyone wanting him gone, there's a big argument to suggest even if the squad is that bad that we have to roll the dice soon on someone who can maybe get enough of a tune out of it.

Sadly though, I just can't see anything other than defeat tonight.
 
Best thing Lampard could do is come out and have a dig at the powers higher up.

Hed get so much fan support.
He did a little bit in his last interview by saying something along the lines of "I'd have to be Superman to fix all the things here" as well as say a few times something close to "that area isn't part of my job".

He knows how the game works, he knows he's deadman walking, he's not going to go out of his way to come across unprofessional and a boat-rocker when he'll no doubt be looking for another job in a week or two.
 
The other thing that infuriates me about Lampard’s job supposedly resting on tonight is that by rights DCL should be rested tonight rather than play three games in a week, because any more injuries to him will scupper us even more. But the club aren’t even allowing Lampard the luxury of that sort of medium term thinking so maybe he’ll feel compelled to chuck him in in the name of getting a result in a competition we won’t win anyway, rather than resting him for the much more important game against Southampton.
 

Depends but Lampard really did have a sign off at least on those two players. Ultimately he gave the nod to them. But if it's the only thing you are offered then as a manager you obviously aren't going to say no.

But yes all of those players were brought in with no DoF or head of recruitment in place. I keep banging on about this I know, but it is absolutely staggering we still do not have a head of recruitment. The one that has accepted the job (I don't have a name, others in the media/closer to the club do know) hasn't yet officially started, that's all I know. And that to me is crazy.
Lampard's interview after his first game last year included the following comments about Van de Beek:

"I brought him here because of his talent in terms of his play, his intelligence and his work ethic...He looked confident on the ball and that's exactly what I brought him here to do...I think he can do different roles and that's the beauty of him and why I moved so quickly to try and get him when I came in...I'm a big admirer of him as a player and I think he can do both roles for us. He played as one of two midfield players today and I know he's got the talent to link and get us through the lines of the pitch with his passing, and he also has the work ethic needed in that role...that's one of the big pulls of me bringing him in, knowing that he can bring different elements of his game to help us in different ways."

So Lampard definitely had a part to play in at least one, and it sounds like it was a lot more than just signing it off too.
 
The other thing that infuriates me about Lampard’s job supposedly resting on tonight is that by rights Dominic Calvert-Lewin should be rested tonight rather than play three games in a week, because any more injuries to him will scupper us even more. But the club aren’t even allowing Lampard the luxury of that sort of medium term thinking so maybe he’ll feel compelled to chuck him in in the name of getting a result in a competition we won’t win anyway, rather than resting him for the much more important game against Southampton.

I don't think DC-L will start tonight. He'll get minutes, if we are still in the game with 20 or 30 to go.
 
Lampard's interview after his first game last year included the following comments about Van de Beek:

"I brought him here because of his talent in terms of his play, his intelligence and his work ethic...He looked confident on the ball and that's exactly what I brought him here to do...I think he can do different roles and that's the beauty of him and why I moved so quickly to try and get him when I came in...I'm a big admirer of him as a player and I think he can do both roles for us. He played as one of two midfield players today and I know he's got the talent to link and get us through the lines of the pitch with his passing, and he also has the work ethic needed in that role...that's one of the big pulls of me bringing him in, knowing that he can bring different elements of his game to help us in different ways."

So Lampard definitely had a part to play in at least one, and it sounds like it was a lot more than just signing it off too.

He was brought in right on the window. I imagine he was able to have a look at the squad and assess what he needed. Also, loans are typically more of a manager involved thing as it's addressing an immediate need
 

If that's true - and we have no reason not to believe it - then it's a thundering disgrace and not one bit suprising. What a despicable cabal of venal charlatans we have running our club treating a decent man like utter trash or a Twitter employee.

In my view, Lampard has worked his way out of his job. But there are ways to treat people - and this is not one of them. They are hanging him out to humiliate him, buy themselves time, and give themselves cover for what has been an inevitable decision for nearly two months now. They are toying with him.

One result - good or bad - changes nothing. The decision has already been made. Lampard knows it, we know it, and the board know it. But Kenwright can't resist the cruel theatrical choreography.

Disgusting.
 

I don't think DC-L will start tonight. He'll get minutes, if we are still in the game with 20 or 30 to go.
That’s definitely what should happen, and probably will happen because Lampard will put the player and the club before himself. But if he does have one game to save himself then the temptation is there to throw out the best xi regardless of the risks. It’s a stupid situation.
 
I truly hope Lampard stays in the job whatever happens tonight.

The boards treatment of him is now becoming a real masterclass of sh**housery, either sack the lad and get in another hopeful, or back him to the hilt, what message is this sending out to future candidates for the job?

When we still rely on the likes of Davies to come in to do a job, whilst all hopes are still on Lewin coming good, when we resign Gana 5 years past his use by and make him a regular, whilst we've got the likes of Ali, Mina, Vinagre, Garner, Mcneil, Maupay and many more stealing a big wage and never playing you have to look at things realistically and say this is not the managers fault.

Blue fans calling for his head are missing a big trick here and merely supporting the board as they attempt once more to scapegoat another manager in an attempt to save their sorry ar5es.

On another note, I doubt Lampard has sanctioned or even been happy with many of the signings on his watch, it simply does not make sense a player of his calibre would entertain the pure dross that's been invited on the gravy train.

Back Lampard, vilify the board lads. COYB
 
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If that's true - and we have no reason not to believe it - then it's a thundering disgrace and not one bit suprising. What a despicable cabal of venal charlatans we have running our club treating a decent man like utter trash or a Twitter employee.

In my view, Lampard has worked his way out of his job. But there are ways to treat people - and this is not one of them. They are hanging him out to humiliate him, buy themselves time, and give themselves cover for what has been an inevitable decision for nearly two months now. They are toying with him.

One result - good or bad - changes nothing. The decision has already been made. Lampard knows it, we know it, and the board know it. But Kenwright can't resist the cruel theatrical choreography.

Disgusting.
There's loads to have a go at the board about but I do think the way people are going on about this is a bit over the top. There's no nice way of sacking someone, and the truth is people would be unhappy if it leaked we were talking to people behind his back (disrespectful), we sacked him immediately after the Bournemouth game (knee jerk), we sacked him after City (turning a corner) etc etc etc. It's a crap situation, but I don't really think this is as outrageous as is being made out. Their job is to look after the interests of the club (yes i know, ha bloody ha) and if they think having him in charge for this is preferable to having Baines do it and is buying them some time to sort out a replacement - or even that they genuinely still believe he's the right man for the job and a win tonight would stop them sacking him - then so be it.
 
There's loads to have a go at the board about but I do think the way people are going on about this is a bit over the top. There's no nice way of sacking someone, and the truth is people would be unhappy if it leaked we were talking to people behind his back (disrespectful), we sacked him immediately after the Bournemouth game (knee jerk), we sacked him after City (turning a corner) etc etc etc. It's a crap situation, but I don't really think this is as outrageous as is being made out. Their job is to look after the interests of the club (yes i know, ha bloody ha) and if they think having him in charge for this is preferable to having Baines do it and is buying them some time to sort out a replacement - or even that they genuinely still believe he's the right man for the job and a win tonight would stop them sacking him - then so be it.
Nah, can't agree. We're not asking for a "nice" way to do it. A respectful way was all that was required. A professional way would have seen a decision made about the manager after the Bournemouth debacles. There would have been nothing knee-jerk about that. Anybody spouting that was wilfully deluded - and we'll always have to ignore those. And they have been definitively proven wrong since anyway, if proof was ever needed. The club lacked the courage of its convictions and now is in a total state. They would then have had six weeks to find a successor if one was not ready to step in. Succession management is not disrespectful. It's a matter of managing risk. Lampard will have known he was in danger. Now? Choreography. Farcical.
 
Nah, can't agree. We're not asking for a "nice" way to do it. A respectful way was all that was required. A professional way would have seen a decision made about the manager after the Bournemouth debacles. There would have been nothing knee-jerk about that. Anybody spouting that was wilfully deluded - and we'll always have to ignore those. And they have been definitively proven wrong since anyway, if proof was ever needed. The club lacked the courage of its convictions and now is in a total state. They would then have had six weeks to find a successor if one was not ready to step in. Succession management is not disrespectful. It's a matter of managing risk. Lampard will have known he was in danger. Now? Choreography. Farcical.
Lots of people would have thought it was knee jerk after Bournemouth, that's just indisputable because there are literally hundreds of posts in this very thread which will back it up. The fact you - and I - would disagree isn't really relevant, the point still stands. Lots of people still thought he was the right man for the job until Tuesday night, and even now it's not like everybody's fully against him and it's gone toxic, he still has plenty of support even if many people have agreed that he can't really argue if he's sacked. I just don't see this as him being thrown to the wolves, he's being asked to do his job - which he's handsomely paid for - until the club decide he's no longer required. Everybody knows the stories that Kendall and Ferguson would have been sacked if it wasn't for Kevin Brock and Mark Robins, is this not just the same thing? We all know he's in the last chance saloon, but he's still got a chance to save himself.
 

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