2022/23 Frank Lampard

[Mathieubleucoyb]

Looking back now, how he survived after the debacle at Bournemouth is mind boggling.

Because we have lampard fan boys like blue Stevie and Zatara that were so charmed by the man that we can get hammered by Bournemouth and lose to Southampton and still tell you the man needs time lol. No excuses.

 

[PhilM]

Jesus Christ, I see some people have been hitting the narcotics pretty hard today.

Are people seriously suggesting that Lampard should have been retained? I can't work out if it's wummery or not.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Are people seriously suggesting that Lampard should have been retained? I can't work out if it's wummery or not.

It's got to be. Cannot even coach in his current job let alone manage which is pretty a damming indictment. Good for hits on the site I suppose if it remains civil.

 

[Mathieubleucoyb]

This is so true, he was the right fit. Not sure why people are mocking you for saying it.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Listen take your lampard posters off the wall. He single handedly relegated Everton football club. Statistics speak for themselves if you need a reminder. On record he’s the second worse manager to ever manager us and can’t even win a game with Chelsea. You basically supported us going to the championship.

Again cos you’re plainly thick, absolutely no one has or had Frank Lampard posters, because the huge majority are grown adults

 

[lungo]

Would we have less points if we had stuck with lampard? Maybe, but probably not. Weve only won 3 games since

A bad decision to sack at that point. We were well past the point at which a change made logical sense.

The question to keep Lampard or not is laughable. The question is who did hire him and why he got not fired after the last game (Arsenal) of the 22-23 season.

 

[hktoffee]

20 games 15 points. Enough said.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Actually worry for the fella,this run he’s had at Chelsea on top of that last video in the hotel with some Evertonians before his last game at West Ham,he looked a lost and broken soul,really do hope he can turn his career around as whatever you may think of him as a manager,he bought into our club heavily and was a thoroughly decent man.

 

[Bkk Andy]

Actually worry for the fella,this run he’s had at Chelsea on top of that last video in the hotel with some Evertonians before his last game at West Ham,he looked a lost and broken soul,really do hope he can turn his career around as whatever you may think of him as a manager,he bought into our club heavily and was a thoroughly decent man.

Nice guy, terrible manager. I suspect Chelsea is the final nail in his managerial career.

 

[jazzy]

I can't imagine that anyone would be stupid enough to entrust him with a managers position in the future.
Chelsea has been the final nail in the coffin of his managerial career.
EDIT, sorry to @Bkk Andy , should have read your post before Posting. Looks like I've copied and pasted but honestly didn't!

 

[trueblue84]

Listen take your lampard posters off the wall. He single handedly relegated Everton football club. Statistics speak for themselves if you need a reminder. On record he’s the second worse manager to ever manager us and can’t even win a game with Chelsea. You basically supported us going to the championship.

Not single handedly. He had the help of moshiri, the board and a squad of absolute fannies.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Are people seriously suggesting that Lampard should have been retained? I can't work out if it's wummery or not.

He should have been sacked either after Bournemouth or Brighton or retained for the season. I dont support the sacking at the time it happened.

I dont think we would have any less points under Lampard. And I think he was a far better fit at this time than Dyche.

Its not wummery. I didnt think changing the manager would change anything and it hasn't. Lampard wasn't the problem. Dyche isn't the problem. Managers are not the problem. Sacking Lampard was a waste of time.

In must win games at the end of the season, id back Lampard to get points over Dyche.

 

[PhilM]

He should have been sacked either after Bournemouth or Brighton or retained for the season. I dont support the sacking at the time it happened.

I dont think we would have any less points under Lampard. And I think he was a far better fit at this time than Dyche.

Its not wummery. I didnt think changing the manager would change anything and it hasn't. Lampard wasn't the problem. Dyche isn't the problem. Managers are not the problem. Sacking Lampard was a waste of time.

In must win games at the end of the season, id back Lampard to get points over Dyche.

Here I disagree - we would not have beaten Arsenal under Lampard nor would a result against Leeds have been likely. At the time, we were in real decline.

Dyche stopped the rot, and I sincerely believe Lampard would not have rekindled any form. You only need to look at Chelsea now for his frailties.

Maybe he'd be the better person to get results later on, but that's thinking of games in isolation. The system didn't work, and the players weren't performing.

Would he have been able to turn that around? Again, I doubt it. He had to go, yet the real issue is that he should have gone earlier rather than when he did.

Lampard may not have been the real problem, but he was part of the wider problem.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Here I disagree - we would not have beaten Arsenal under Lampard nor would a result against Leeds have been likely. At the time, we were in real decline.

Dyche stopped the rot, and I sincerely believe Lampard would not have rekindled any form. You only need to look at Chelsea now for his frailties.

Maybe he'd be the better person to get results later on, but that's thinking of games in isolation. The system didn't work, and the players weren't performing.

Would he have been able to turn that around? Again, I doubt it. He had to go, yet the real issue is that he should have gone earlier rather than when he did.

Lampard may not have been the real problem, but he was part of the wider problem.

We've only won 3 games. I dont believe lampard would have done any worse. The difference for me is neither here nor there

I didnt agree with the timing of the sacking at all. It wrecked our January plans and was too late. I would much rather have backed lampard with a forward than sacked a manager and created huge uncertainty in a crucial month.

 

[PhilM]

We've only won 3 games. I dont believe lampard would have done any worse. The difference for me is neither here nor there

You're right, it's only three games. Yet, we've also got a few important draws along the way too. Can you honestly say that Lampard would have matched the tally?

That's not saying it's a stellar record or suggesting I'm happy with it, but would he have matched it? If he hadn't, we'd be further adrift or even close to bottom.

You can say that Dyche's appointment was better than keeping Lampard AND say that Dyche hasn't performed as well as we'd demand.