2022/23 Frank Lampard

[Tel001]

I’m not turning on him but I am massively concerned that he continues to play a 2 man midfield .

Our wing backs are absolutely shocking in the final 3rd of the pitch and none of our CM can play in a 2 man Cm. Yet every week he plays it, also zonal marking has to go, not saying that the system cannot work, but it deffo can’t be done effectively by our players so why play it?

Our front 3 offer nothing , have no presence and no out ball, yet he plays it every week.

 

[Nymzee]

We didn’t go to a 3 man midfield at all second half yesterday did we? Little concerning. I’d have thought after doing it at Fleetwood with Warrington he’d have realised that’s a good way to wrestle back some control and possession.

 

[Eggs]

….I‘d have thought the approach with 3 CBs is to push the WBs high up the pitch but I’m not seeing much of that. Not sure how many times our WBs have got behind the opposition defence and pulled a cross back.

Essentially we play with a back 5.

Our 2 PL goals have come via assists from Pickford and Coady (apparently the first in his career).

 

[Ring master]

….I‘d have thought the approach with 3 CBs is to push the WBs high up the pitch but I’m not seeing much of that. Not sure how many times our WBs have got behind the opposition defence and pulled a cross back.

Essentially we play with a back 5.

Our 2 PL goals have come via assists from Pickford and Coady (apparently the first in his career).

Coady's is his 1st in the prem league, he has assisted in the championship and league 1

 

[Eggs]

Coady's is his 1st in the prem league, he has assisted in the championship and league 1

….cheers, Matey, that makes more sense.

 

[Axlswhk]

….I‘d have thought the approach with 3 CBs is to get WBs high up the pitch but I’m not seeing much of that. Not sure how many times our WBs have got behind the opposition defence and pulled a cross back.

Our 2 PL goals have come via assists from Pickford and Coady (apparently the first in his career).

Myko did it once, nothing from Patterson. They did receive plenty of diagonal balls from deep, the problem is what they do with the ball in the final third, very often too conservative and too predictable. It’s like afraid of trying anything so they won’t get blame for losing the ball. It’s either back pass or cross from deep. Safe option, which makes them look ineffective.

I want them to take more risk, more dribbling, and more unpredictable in their build up.

 

[Nealroy]

If we're going to stick with 3 at the back I think we are going to need to look at how we can drop one of the forward players slightly deeper to help get an overload in the central midfield zone. With wing backs I think you need some control in there to allow them time to get forward, else it's just a 5 at the back as others have said.

 

[catcherintherye]

The season before Lampard went to Chelsea they finished 3rd with 72 points and won the Europa League.

In Lampard's first season they finished 4th with 66 points and won nothing.

So he didn't maintain performance they went backwards. In Lampards first season they lost 12 League games and conceded 54 League goals. The last time Chelsea lost more than 12 League games was 97-98. 54 League goals conceded was their worst total since 96-97.

Chelsea have gone from conceding 54 League goals to conceding 36 and 33 in the last two seasons.

Ah ok, sorry you just said he went from 4th to 4th in his first season and 6th to 6th at Derby.

To me that is maintaining performance, especially as he didnt spend any money.

The goals conceded is fair, but from memory this was almost entirely down to that Kepa wasnt it? I seem to remember Chelsea's Xg against being very good, but that fella just letting about 70% of shots in, which was awful.

I could be wrong, and you know more than me, but that does ring a bell.

I'm not a huge Lampard fan, and he failed at Chelsea, but to me his failure was that 2nd season, where he had a lot of dough to spend and didnt get the team to kick on. The first season, he actually did alright when you factor in paper machet hands in goals and no money to spend.

 

[St James]

I won't have a Benitez loving geordie simpleton, telling me what the story is! Go back to rawk or whatever geordie site you came from buddy.

I hold no great affection for Benitez, I was simply pointing out the inaccuracy of the statement claiming Lampard has a better points to games ratio at Everton in Premier League matches. If people believe that Lampard is the solution to Everton's problems this season then it's their gift to believe that, personally I don't think he is, but he may prove me wrong and others right.

 

[CrabbyPaddy]

I can understand the frustration, but at the same time the man has the likes of Davies, Keane and Condom to bring on.

If we can finalise Gueye, bring in a couple of additions and bed Maupay in, I think we’ll be alright.

Definitely think the squad is moving in the right direction, and unfortunately will require a bit of patience.

 

[catcherintherye]

….I‘d have thought the approach with 3 CBs is to push the WBs high up the pitch but I’m not seeing much of that. Not sure how many times our WBs have got behind the opposition defence and pulled a cross back.

Essentially we play with a back 5.

Our 2 PL goals have come via assists from Pickford and Coady (apparently the first in his career).

I think its partially that. But I also think it's to make us more difficult to play against/score against, and have extra height on set pieces.

I didnt see the game yesterday, but against a side who are awkward of set plays, looks like we didnt concede. That 4 PL games and a league cup match. It's small steps forward.

Maybe if we get a couple more midfielders in, and Doucoure is fit, we switch to a back 4?

What I'd say, is from the bits I've seen, is Patterson is not as bad defensively is people have made out. Hes a bit clumsy, and can witch off, but he is full blooded and has a good attitude/willingness to defend.

 

[catcherintherye]

Last season was dreadful but had the benefit of a good start.
I was hoping we’d improve.
Anything above rock bottom after the next 3 games will be a bonus because there ain’t many wins in the way we are playing.

I can see us winning games mate. Leeds and West Ham are beatable, and every game is close currently. New signings will help and will hopefully some returning players.

But yes, it was always a tough start. Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal in the first 7, and if we are out of the bottom 3 at that point, it will be a steady start.

 

[Lob]

I seen some signs of some better stuff from us in the first half yesterday but there are still gaps and we are definitely still short. Give him another 3 or 4 decent players in relevant areas this week as well as offload a bit more dead wood and then whatever happens this season is down to himself. If he cannot get us to even a mid table team after having about 8 new players well then lets be honest, he doesn't deserve the job really. Even them muppets last season were capable of being mid table but failed miserably.

Personally i think he will do ok with a few more additions this week. Hope so anyway.

 

[dannyboy]

I’m not turning on him but I am massively concerned that he continues to play a 2 man midfield .

Our wing backs are absolutely shocking in the final 3rd of the pitch and none of our CM can play in a 2 man Cm. Yet every week he plays it, also zonal marking has to go, not saying that the system cannot work, but it deffo can’t be done effectively by our players so why play it?

Our front 3 offer nothing , have no presence and no out ball, yet he plays it every week.

The 3-5-2 is obviously not working. By surrendering the midfield every week we just invite pressure on a fragile defence that still can't cope even with 5 of them there.

If he thinks the solution is bringing Gueye into that midfield 2 then we're in for a rough time. He needs to be played in a 3 otherwise he's just charging round with no cover and no one to pass the ball to.

 

[blueconverse]

523 suits 2 players. Patterson and Coady. The rest of the team look lost. Will deffo be his downfall