2022/23 Frank Lampard

[TheBigIguana]

I want to play an expensive game like you do. I want to see Everton playing an aggressive, high energy, direct, attacking brand of football because that is Everton football. But we simply do not have the players to do that against good opposition and there are lots of good teams in this league. There are no easy games when you have a team like ours.

You can only play the way you want to play if you have the talent and personnel to do it effectively. Letting philosophy overrule pragmatism in this league will 99% of the time end in failure.

I'll give you another example. When I watch the Packers tomorrow I would love to see Aaron Rodgers airing it down the field for big plays because that's what Rodgers does best. But throwing it deep in the usual Packers manner is not working and will not work with such a lot of talent and experience at receiver. If they stick to that gameplan they will lose the game. If they play a Conservative run based game, which is their strength, they will probably win.

Lampard learned that the only way he could turn things around here was through pragmatism. I'm almost certain he doesn't want to play like this, but if he hadn't changed his approach last spring, we'd have been playing somewhere a lot less glamorous today.

When do you make the change though? At some point philosophy will have to win.

 

[ToffeeTim]

When do you make the change though? At some point philosophy will have to win.

When your philosophy will get more results than the conservative approach.

That will be if and when we get players who can make a difference in the final third.

 

[TheBigIguana]

When your philosophy will get more results than the conservative approach.

That will be if and when we get players who can make a difference in the final third.

My take is when your attack is bad you actually need to take more risks to try and score

 

[ToffeeTim]

A large amount of people didn't like how we played under Ancellotti - the washed up, Italian Sam Allerdyce we're the shouts FFS.

What would he know either. Not like he won the champions league or anything last season

 

[riddick]

Dunno where this would fit but we have such a massive issue in the final third.

 

[Mickey]

Hate to agree with @TheBigIguana but going out to nick a point without a plan to get at the opposition and try to win is not sustainable in the long run. If Gray or Onana score today we would still have lost exactly like last week. Both teams are better than us yes, but they both had midweek games in europe and we never laid a glove on either. Midweek Newcastle is a huge game.

 

[Leylo]

We got battered, it was never close and expecting us to win because we had two reasonable shots and "should have" scored both is something a manager should be smarter than in 2022.

Tell u what should we sack him ,I go week in week out I can see what he's trying to do you might not would any other manager done better with the players available. No in my opinion. Stop moaning or go and support someone else

 

[ToffeeTim]

My take is when your attack is bad you actually need to take more risks to try and score

And nullify our own strength?

I.e. looking more solid and organised?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

When do you make the change though? At some point philosophy will have to win.

Pragmatism is arguably philosophy. I feel Frank will certainly draw on Mourinho's management at times.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Hate to agree with @TheBigIguana but going out to nick a point without a plan to get at the opposition and try to win is not sustainable in the long run. If Gray or Onana score today we would still have lost exactly like last week. Both teams are better than us yes, but they both had midweek games in europe and we never laid a glove on either. Midweek Newcastle is a huge game.

There isn't much chance of us winning up there without an ability to threaten

 

[TheBigIguana]

Pragmatism is arguably philosophy. I feel Frank will certainly draw on Mourinho's management at times.

Mourinho teams still could sustain period of pressure and score lots of goals. There is a middle.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Tell u what should we sack him ,I go week in week out I can see what he's trying to do you might not would any other manager done better with the players available. No in my opinion. Stop moaning or go and support someone else

I have no issue with sacking him and didn't in May either. I just don't see it, maybe this time next year I'll be wrong.

 

[TheBigIguana]

And nullify our own strength?

I.e. looking more solid and organised?

There's a middle. A good manager might find it.

I also am much less sold on the strength there than most.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Mourinho teams still could sustain period of pressure and score lots of goals. There is a middle.

We're not there yet. Like, he's having to rebuild this squad. I'll be amazed if any of the front players are around in 2 seasons time.

 

[ToffeeTim]

There's a middle. A good manager might find it.

I also am much less sold on the strength there than most.

We arent going to outscore opponents until we get some players who can create and score.