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2022/23 Frank Lampard

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LeeCarsley said:
Newcastle have spent 200 million since January, United have spent a fortune as well and have an actual competent manager and squad as opposed to last season. We aren't a top football team. The benchmark for growth from last season should be a better points total and a better squad, as well as more cultural benchmarks.
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Prior to the Man U game, we had a reasonable run of undefeated games. Some of these games were draws, but maybe we should've won. We didn't lose, so overall it's considered a good run. I was pretty optimistic about the block of games against ManU, Spurs and Newcastle, not necessarily to win, but maybe one or two draws against the grain. So to get nothing and not be a nuisance was disappointing.

I also look at form against the top teams to set expectations for a cup run. It's pretty much how I've judged Everton and our managers because knowing we may; not have been the most talented team, I think attitude plays a bigger part. Even if a team isn't great, they can still win a bunch of random games against varying levels of opposition and win or make a final. Idk how many results we're going to have like Palace this season, but I'd prefer to save those for a cup quarter/semi/final or against the top teams.
 
Do you know the way we say Moyes had an eye for a player - i.e could pick out a good one for the lower leagues, a foreign player very few had seen or heard off, or a young player with potential like Stones, even an elder states men who could add something big to the team like Distin, Neville, Donovan or Neill. Usually making us 10's of million eventually in the process, probably financing the club over his years.

Do we think Frank is similar, Onana, Coady, JT, Maupay, McNeill, Garner, Gueye - will these players go on to make the club significant money or prove absolutely massive value? Will his signings spell the end of our FFP woes? Does Frank have "an eye for a player"?
 
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Neiler said:
Do you know the way we say Moyes had an eye for a player - i.e could pick out a good one for the lower leagues, a foreign player very few had seen or heard off, or a young player with potential like Stones, even an elder states men who could add something big to the team like Distin, Neville, Donovan or Neill. Usually making us 10's of million eventually in the process, probably financing the club over his years.

Do we think Frank is similar, Onana, Coady, JT, Maupay, McNeill, Garner, Gueye - will these players go on to make the club significant money or prove absolutely massive value? Will his signings spell the end of our FFP woes? Does Frank have "an eye for a player"?
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Think he certainly has an eye for a player, just look at Mount from his time at Chelsea and Derby

Is he going to be the Moyes type of making mega money on players? No, but we operate in a different ballgame now and that'll never really be replicated again by anyone
 

Connor said:
Think he certainly has an eye for a player, just look at Mount from his time at Chelsea and Derby

Is he going to be the Moyes type of making mega money on players? No, but we operate in a different ballgame now and that'll never really be replicated again by anyone
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Moyes is still being moyes at West Ham. The Czech players, Dawson, Jarod Bowen for example
 
Neiler said:
Do you know the way we say Moyes had an eye for a player - i.e could pick out a good one for the lower leagues, a foreign player very few had seen or heard off, or a young player with potential like Stones, even an elder states men who could add something big to the team like Distin, Neville, Donovan or Neill. Usually making us 10's of million eventually in the process, probably financing the club over his years.

Do we think Frank is similar, Onana, Coady, JT, Maupay, McNeill, Garner, Gueye - will these players go on to make the club significant money or prove absolutely massive value? Will his signings spell the end of our FFP woes? Does Frank have "an eye for a player"?
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That's Thelwell's role isn't it?
 
Neiler said:
Do you know the way we say Moyes had an eye for a player - i.e could pick out a good one for the lower leagues, a foreign player very few had seen or heard off, or a young player with potential like Stones, even an elder states men who could add something big to the team like Distin, Neville, Donovan or Neill. Usually making us 10's of million eventually in the process, probably financing the club over his years.

Do we think Frank is similar, Onana, Coady, JT, Maupay, McNeill, Garner, Gueye - will these players go on to make the club significant money or prove absolutely massive value? Will his signings spell the end of our FFP woes? Does Frank have "an eye for a player"?
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…as has been the case at Everton for a long time, we’re not entirely sure who identifies and acquires players. Since Moshiri came in, there is evidence to suggest he, BK, a series of Managers & the odd DoF brought their own targets in.

Hopefully, Thelwell and Lampard are in this together, with the DoF having the final say.
 
LinekersLegs said:
Agree it was the best so far this season but like others I’ve seen progress even in other games - especially in our defense. My heart rate when we are facing corners or a break is a lot lower!
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This all day long. Also for signs of improvement how about beating a team 3-0 that thrashed us 4-0 earlier those year. We look mentally stronger and the bench is way better than it was last season, anyone who doesn't think we've improved is just chatting wham. Are we where we want to be? Of course no, but country miles better than we were just 6/7 months ago.
 

TheBigIguana said:
I think how we pick up the points does matter. Sam had us 8th. No one thought we were getting better.
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It doesn’t.

This is the definitive measure of the effectiveness of football. You score more, you let in less, you get more points, ergo you’re better at football. Anything else is just a subjective opinion on how much you like a certain style.

Liverpool have played some of the most basic route one football in the league the last few seasons. Bang it down the middle, win a second ball, look for corners and set pieces, swing in cross after cross, look for counter attacks. It’s the polar opposite of how City play trying to play through the lines with through balls, cut backs, dominating possession, actually refusing counter attacks, short set pieces etc. Yet no one gives one how you’re playing when you’re finishing in the top 4 because your football is better than 16 others teams.

Allardyce’s anomaly of a season when we won some games when the pressure was off and somehow finished ahead of a lot of teams clumped together doesn’t prove anything. Only that we’d been RELATIVELY just as effective vis a vis 19 other teams in 17/18 as we were under Silva a year later when we also finished 8th despite them going about it different ways.

If Frank gets more points this season than last season and finishes in a higher league position that is factual improvement that you cannot explain away with hipster nonsense.
 

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