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Gareth Barry

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You look back at all of his yellows just about all of them are "professional fouls".

His problem is his lack of leg speed allows players to run past him so whilst he's doing the right thing for the team and I am glad he does it it really does show his lack of leg speed becoming a problem.
 

He played well last night. Still think Barry and MCCarthy should be the first choice pair.

Besic's time will come, but he's still got a hell of a lot to learn
 
Jozzy said:
You look back at all of his yellows just about all of them are "professional fouls".

His problem is his lack of leg speed allows players to run past him so whilst he's doing the right thing for the team and I am glad he does it it really does show his lack of leg speed becoming a problem.
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Exactly. Although he's doing the right thing for the team, from the team's perspective we need someone in there who isn't going to be caught in the first place. For a player who rarely ventures from infront of the back four his lack of pace results in players going past him and they're straight at our defense.

I think he's a good player and can start games but he shouldn't be starting every single game and playing 90 minutes. It's asking for trouble. Taking off besic who, fair enough puts himself about a bit more and was on a yellow too but also has much better athleticism so can recover his position better than Barry was a terrible decision. I said it at the time. Then Martinez brings on Gibson but leaves Barry on.

Barry is still going to be a good player for us but Martinez expecting him to start every game and play the full 90 is poor player management I think. Especially yesterday when he brought Gibson on anyway.
 

We'll improve tenfold without him in the team. Might actually have a go at home against Leicester without him slowing everything down. Thought Gibson was going to replace him last night, but n we got the hilarious sight of Gibson trying to play number 10 against Matic whilst walking Red card Barry stayed on.
 
Toffee-nerd said:
Exactly. Although he's doing the right thing for the team, from the team's perspective we need someone in there who isn't going to be caught in the first place. For a player who rarely ventures from infront of the back four his lack of pace results in players going past him and they're straight at our defense.

I think he's a good player and can start games but he shouldn't be starting every single game and playing 90 minutes. It's asking for trouble. Taking off besic who, fair enough puts himself about a bit more and was on a yellow too but also has much better athleticism so can recover his position better than Barry was a terrible decision. I said it at the time. Then Martinez brings on Gibson but leaves Barry on.

Barry is still going to be a good player for us but Martinez expecting him to start every game and play the full 90 is poor player management I think. Especially yesterday when he brought Gibson on anyway.
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The problem with Barry is more systematic than that.

Barry's lack of pace and ability to deal with someone 1 on 1 results in him dropping back. If he's caught in the middle of the park with space behind him then he has no other option but to take the man down resulting in yellows which in this case caused the red. Both where cynical fouls brought about by his lack of pace.

The other issue we have with Barry is because of this he drops back so deep so that the two centre backs are directly behind him so when one of our front players like Barkley presses the ball there's always a big hole right in the middle of park for someone to move into to receive the pass. It's probably a large part of the reason why Ross jogs around not really closing down. You have to press as a team otherwise there's no point and Barry's lack of pace essentially stops him from doing this.

If we defend backs against the wall all in our own final third Barry is great. He gets stuck in and his positional sense is excellent however as soon as we come out of that shell Barry is liability. A liability that good teams find very easy with their passing and movement to exploit.

I really hope that the Besic McCarthy partnership works and Martinez accepts this while we still have a chance in the Europa League.
 
Clearly not as as good as last season and you wonder if like Distin he has gone. Though I will admit he played better last night than in most games this season but ended up sent off and the free kick he gave away was what they scored from. I hope we aren't stuck with him for 3 years but gut feeling is we will be and McCarthy will be sold to finance further recruitment.
 

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