Gareth Barry

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As much as I like Gaz Baz he needs to accept what we've offered him or move on....hanging round and haggling will leave a sour taste. Time to put up per shut up really.
 
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So City topped his salary up last year?

I imagine he'll have to take a cut to remain here.
Gossip on the City boards was that we had split his wages 50/50 with City last year, but part of the agreement was that if we did sign him we would refund them those wages. Hence the rumoured payment despite him being out if contract. But it could well be just speculation.

Can't see us offering him over 60k a week though whereas someone like West Ham might.
 

Where's this talk of non-compete agreements come from?
I'm not sure. Non-compete agreements aren't the issue.
This is my understanding of how player loans usually work:
There are 2 contracts.
1. The player is under contract with his original club.
2. The original club and the new club enter into a contract governing the length of the loan and the repayment terms.

The player is still paid by his original club while on loan. The second contract sends money from his new team to his old, as per the agreement.

Non-compete clauses have to do with ex-employees, i.e. "Barry cannot sign with Everton after his contract expires". That kind of clause would only be in the first contract. Does not apply to the second contract since there is no employee-employer relationship in the second contract. If it's in the first contract then the dispute is between Barry and his original club. Everton aren't bound by that contract and could not be a party to any dispute regarding it.

The second contract is where all this mess is coming from, and we don't actually know the clauses in the contract. A clause that would cause Everton to pay 2m, or pay the rest of his split wages from last season, or whatever it says, is most certainly enforceable if the triggering conditions of the clause have occurred. We can't know if it's been triggered since we don't have the clause to inspect. Nothing to do but wait until the lawyers duke it out. Barry has to wait just like the rest of us...not his fault this happened and there's nothing he can do to speed it up.
 
Looks like we are in dispute over the first loan contract to pay the alleged 2.5 million for a player out of contract when free to everyone else is a bit stupid = the EFC way!
 
We've been p****d about on more than one occasion, ending up with not getting the transfer fee that had been agreed -- I'm thinking Michael Ball and Joseph Yobo in particular.
 

Any agreement which says we have to pay 2.5m after the player no longer belongs to the club would be null and void in court.

I don't think it's as simple as that mate. A contract between Man City and us is separate to the playing contract Gaz Baz had with City. The two contracts are not necessarily related. I could buy a house from you tomorrow for £100k with a provision that I'd pay you £50k in 5 years time. Whether you had sold the house in the interim is irrelevant.
 
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I don't think it's as simple as that mate. A contract between Man City and us is separate to the playing contract Gaz Baz had with City. The two contracts are not necessarily related. I could buy a house from you tomorrow for £100k with a provision that I'd pay you £50k in 5 years time. Whether you had sold the house in the interim is irrelevant.

Correct.
 
I don't think it's as simple as that mate. A contract between Man City and us is separate to the playing contract Gaz Baz had with City. The two contracts are not necessarily related. I could buy a house from you tomorrow for £100k with a provision that I'd pay you £50k in 5 years time. Whether you had sold the house in the interim is irrelevant.
It's pretty as simple as what i said to be fair, if it's something they have put in a contract about us paying a fee to buy the players contract (which is what a transfer essentially is) then they have no grounds to uphold that because the contract does not belong to them anymore.

The only reason we would have to pay any money is if we owe them money from wages from last season.
 

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