Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Not said any of that at all. Read it again.
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Not said any of that at all. Read it again.
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
Will do. Skim reading as I should be working.
BRB
Besic does often play the role of Barry partner slightly differently to McCarthy, probably because Besic is a bit more confident in his forward passing but McCarthy also does quite a lot of foraging forward to harrass. But Barry sitting back allows both of them the freedom to go forward with Barry cleaning up stuff that they miss.
There are different ways to set up the midfield and some work better than others for different teams, but having one of the players playing deeper does tend to mean the fullbacks can push forward with pseudo back three behind to protect which suits Coleman/Baines/Oviedo who all like being attacking fullbacks. I don't think the setup is entirely driven by Barry's lack of pace which is what you seem to be claiming.
Will be interesting the see how the McCarthy/Besic partnership is setup in the next couple of games and whether we use a similar system with McCarthy in the deeper role.
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
Games are not mostly won over the midfield. That's so narrow minded. There are a magnitude of reasons why a games is won or loss.
How many games have we not controlled? 2? 3? Definitely agree on the inability to defend well, particularly set pieces. Doesn't help when the GK and Stones are woefully out of form and Coleman, Jagielka and Baines have all been missing at various times.
How does what competition we are in make a difference when they are domestic competitions? It's just games in a row. We've been inconsistent, but that has nothing to do with having a different game plan because the match is in the league cup or the FA cup to the league.
Our defenders have, when together, been very poor at various times. Funes Mori can either head everything or head nothing. Baines and his distribution have been poor at times. Howard and Joel have both had their moments of face palm.
What I am getting at is, you look at the team with all of the inconsistencies and disregard them completely in favour of simply looking to McCarthy and Barry and saying 'i don't like them'. You can't substantiate the point because your point has no substance. Near enough everybody can see Barry has been brilliant and McCarthy is an integral part of the side. He made more tackles than the Chelsea midfield combined on Saturday... there was five of them!!
You don't like Barry and as a fellow blue no-one here dislikes you for that. We have our favourites and our least favourites. What you rightfully get grief for is your slightly bizarre basis for the critique. "He's too old, he doesn't pass well enough, he makes us play differently to how we would without him... yaddy yah"
It's just all a bit...well..bonkers.
Look at who's dug himself in the Barry bunker.
Come out and we won't raze you like Dresden. Just make sure you're wearing the black and white of Newcastle so we can identify your surrender.
Come out and we won't raze you like Dresden. Just make sure you're wearing the black and white of Newcastle so we can identify your surrender.
Sapie88
Hi @Donald Twain
@Saint Domingo is having an absolute mare, contradicting himself AOTS!
Cage has been well and truly rattled and he's seething.
Cage has been well and truly rattled and he's seething.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Awful.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Don't agree with most of that.
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
Ok mate xxx
Kiwi
Say NO to Ginger Managers
When you talk about myopic opinions...
Get those hands up and move slowly. You're mine now.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Could understand this cockiness on some other player threads but really he's 35 and we're 12th in the league. I don't really need to keep going. Wouldn't get into many sides above us.
Gaz The Baz is fantastic
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
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