Gerard Deulofeu - Once a Blue, always a Blue

[Sensei]

But isn't it amazing to see an Everton team fielding two 20 year olds (Lukaku and Barkley) and a 19 year old (Gerard). Throw in McCarthy at 23 and you are witnessing a template as to how to compete in a world where price (dollars) thinks it describes value...it actually doesn't ...not all the time anyway.

definatly a positive i agree

 

[Sensei]

You won't be saying any of this lad when he bags vs Liverpool Kop End

[video=youtube;uOUXlsNgrh4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOUXlsNgrh4[/video]

great goal....and if he scores vs Liverpool he'll bring tears of joy to my eyes....i am just saying for the money it would cost to bring him here permanantly it could be money better spent

2-3 years of loans im absolutely all for

 

[deipnosophist]

no it doesn't ... It was made perfectly clear from the start - Barcelona rate the kid highly, he has a huge buy out clause - they trusted Martinez to further his development - Everton, Barca, Gerard all benefit.... apart from you apparently..

agree mate...it seems a win-win situation to me. I do a lot of commercial dealings in my professional life and I always aim for such outcomes

 

[deipnosophist]

great goal....and if he scores vs Liverpool he'll bring tears of joy to my eyes....i am just saying for the money it would cost to bring him here permanantly it could be money better spent

2-3 years of loans im absolutely all for

first things first...would like him to that vs Arsenal later today!!!

 

[SteKelly]

great goal....and if he scores vs Liverpool he'll bring tears of joy to my eyes....i am just saying for the money it would cost to bring him here permanantly it could be money better spent

2-3 years of loans im absolutely all for

I know what you mean mate but you need to spend money like that on these players to get champions league.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

Also. The beautiful thing about this is, if he does well.. if he improves at Everton, we will see more of their players at us at loan. Which no matter what you say WILL improve us. I'd love to see the likes of Sergi Roberto, Rafinha and even to an extent Dos Santos coming here and getting a bit of game time. Martinez want's footballers, Barcelona want their younger players more game time and improvement. It'll be a great relationship.

 

[fozzie1984]

Also. The beautiful thing about this is, if he does well.. if he improves at Everton, we will see more of their players at us at loan. Which no matter what you say WILL improve us. I'd love to see the likes of Sergi Roberto, Rafinha and even to an extent Dos Santos coming here and getting a bit of game time. Martinez want's footballers, Barcelona want their younger players more game time and improvement. It'll be a great relationship.

yep and we may even get a better deal if we want to buy any of their players from them,hoping this could be the start of a really nice inter club relationship

 

[Khalekan]

fair enough didn't spot him myself but even so the rest of my reasoning still stands

Your pig headedness still stands.

You undermined your whole bitter rant with that erroneous claim and haven't the self awareness to realise it.

Gerald is great for our team......every time he goes on one of fthose runs the opposition panics and he causes mayhem in their box....Oviedo's goal at OT came about precisely because of that.

He waltzed into the area with the ball stuck to his toe and the panicking defenderds couldn't clear it properly and the attack was sustained.

And another thing he does which unsettles defenderd is he refuses to go down under a challenge.

A player staying on his feet when in the box is incredibly hard to deal with.

 

[Jags..class]

Your pig headedness still stands.

You undermined your whole bitter rant with that erroneous claim and haven't the self awareness to realise it.

Gerald is great for our team......every time he goes on one of fthose runs the opposition panics and he causes mayhem in their box....Oviedo's goal at OT came about precisely because of that.

He waltzed into the area with the ball stuck to his toe and the panicking defenderds couldn't clear it properly and the attack was sustained.

And another thing he does which unsettles defenderd is he refuses to go down under a challenge.

A player staying on his feet when in the box is incredibly hard to deal with.

Spot on mate, Martinez basically said the same

 

[BarcaBenjamin]

fair enough didn't spot him myself but even so the rest of my reasoning still stands

Ofcourse it does, i wouldn't expect anything else.

 

[Eggs]

....I suspect he'll score an incredible goal at some point this season and it will come at the end of a long mazy run.

 

[BarcaBenjamin]

I'm not dramatizing anything i just don't allow a players hype to cover up their weaknesses

he's the only everton player i have criticised outside of Osman (who has shown alot of improvement TBF)

i don't appreciate his arrogance and un willingness to pass to players in a better position

yes Lukaku, Barkley and Mirrallas are guilty of bolloxing up passes but at least they are attempting them... in the Stoke and United games there are 6 opportunities for him to grab a potential assist...yes they might not have all been scored... but i'd rather he attempt it then belt it wide trying stupid angles or simple chips into the keepers hands...

If you watched the united game closely enough to count the amount of opportunities he had to grab an assist you'd also notice barkeleys heinous forward passes (and lack of them), passing one two's to get the ball back to himself when he obviously should have played it through to a free teammate. Yet you're treating him with kid's gloves as compared to deulofeu, that doesn't seem right at all.

 

[dead_soft]

Article by Paul Wilson about him

All but lost in the excitement of Everton not only winning at Manchester United for the first time in more than 20 years but having a left-back in the opposition penalty area in the 86th minute looking to score a goal was the consideration that Roberto Martínez outsmarted David Moyes in the transfer window as well as on the Old Trafford pitch.

From Everton's point of view £27m for Marouane Fellaini looks a better piece of business every time the Belgian pulls on a United shirt, while it was easy to forget, watching the impressive contributions of Romelu Lukaku, Gareth Barry and James McCarthy, that all three fetched up on Merseyside only in the closing hours of the last day of summer trading. Even Gerard Deulofeu looked good when he came on as substitute, as he has done on each occasion Martínez has permitted him match time this season, and, though taking the 19-year-old on a season's loan from Barcelona is not quite the audacious coup Arsenal pulled off with Cesc Fàbregas, it does show Arsène Wenger is not the only manager keeping a close watch on junior developments in La Liga.

Martínez believes Fàbregas returned to Spain a better player for his years in England and feels Deulofeu is looking to do the same. "I'm sure Gerard's decision to come to England had something to do with the examples set by Fàbregas and Gerard Piqué," the Everton manager said. "They got an education in the British game and went back better players. There were other top European clubs in for Gerard, as well as others in La Liga, but the player and his club chose Everton. They thought he would benefit not just from a different football experience but a different lifestyle away from the pitch and that really helped us.

"I was very pleased Barcelona trusted us with his development. I have been following his career in Barcelona's B side since he made his debut against Real Madrid at the age of 16. That caught my eye and from that point on it was a matter of pestering Barcelona and being clear about what we could offer."

Deulofeu played a significant part in Everton's recovery in the Merseyside derby last month, after being sent on as substitute in a typically attacking response to the loss of Leighton Baines half way through the game, then scored his first goal for the club in the next match against Stoke. "He has already exceeded my expectations," Martínez explained. "I thought he would need until at least January to be ready for the English league, so he is well ahead of schedule."

The English league, of course, is normally considered inferior to the Spanish product, at least at the level occupied by Barcelona, though Martínez knew better than to pitch his young acquisition into action straight away. "I know Spanish culture and Spanish football really well and I knew Gerard would need time to adapt," he said. "The game is played slightly differently here and all the time on the training pitch I was watching how Gerard reacted when he lost the ball, how quickly he looked to the referee for protection.

"Young players growing up in Spain expect that from referees, and receive it, whereas it is something you are not going to get in the British game because we allow a bit more contact. In the British game a tackle is appreciated just as much as a one-on-one situation and that can come as a bit of a shock to a player from Spain. In Spain you would never get a clap or a cheer for a tackle, never. So in Gerard's first month, his first instinct when losing the ball would be to look to the referee. Once he realised that wasn't going to work, and began to react to losing the ball by trying to get it back, that showed me he was nearly ready.

"Once used to the British style, foreigners tend to enjoy it because it works both ways, it makes the game more interesting. The first thing they tell you in Spain is that you need to be more clever than the opposition and the referee and, if you win a penalty, that's well played. When you come here you quickly realise the approach is not the same. People don't want to see players rolling over and trying to get opponents booked.

"You learn the game is not all about trying to get decisions from the referee. It's a culture thing, I think. The Mediterranean culture is all about trying to gain something, it doesn't matter how. In Britain it is more about wanting to achieve things in a fair way."

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/07/roberto-martinez-everton-gerard-deulofeu

Think he's slightly exaggerating the 'fairness' issue but got a couple of interesting points.

 

[BarcaBenjamin]

Teenagers tend to be egocentric. Some wiring in their brain dictates it apparently. As a parent of two of them, and thus well schooled in dealing with this propensity, I am prepared to cut Gerard some slack. He's a player that if we were offered a second year loan, I would bite the offerors hand off...most GOT participants would, I am sure

Seems counterproductive..

 

[Billy Dean]

yep and we may even get a better deal if we want to buy any of their players from them,hoping this could be the start of a really nice inter club relationship

maybe we could send some of our youth players over to la masia for a few weeks/months too, kind of like a school exchange trip or something, only for footballers. Would help our players improve technically and also learn another language and culture etc to make them more rounded individuals.