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Baines can't even make your bench?
I returned to football 2 months back after an 8 year retirement.

I'm hitting a wall after about 30 minutes of a match - proper, destroyed, sparrow lungs style.

Any fitness tips for a 30 year old has been?! Diet... drugs?!

Playing right back and every game I'm Tony Hibbert in the fa cup final against Florent Malouda.

Join a Couch 2 5K team then keep doing midweek runs up to 8km. As you find the distacnce easier, start to run a bit quicker and see if you can achieve the same distances. At 30 you should be able to run a 10k then play an hour of 5 a side.

Cut the Booze, Fags and Sweets/Crisps. Everything in moderation.
 
I returned to football 2 months back after an 8 year retirement.

I'm hitting a wall after about 30 minutes of a match - proper, destroyed, sparrow lungs style.

Any fitness tips for a 30 year old has been?! Diet... drugs?!

Playing right back and every game I'm Tony Hibbert in the fa cup final against Florent Malouda.

I returned to football +- 2 years back (ale house team; I'm 29) after a very lengthy absence. I could comfortably run an hour at a decent pace, but still that's entirely different from an actual match (after 30 minutes I was exhausted). For me it's a whole lot easier to run a long time at a steady pace than the constant accelerations in football. So honestly I think if you do a couple half an hour (preferably start shorter) runs a week and play actual matches that you'll start improving quickly.

I wouldn't play fullback if I were you though, you constantly have to run up and down the field. Lots of running. I play centre-back, less running, more fun. Preferably Vorstopper (the German word; I don't remember how you call it in English. The player that mainly man marks the striker out of the game. Gary Neville played the role a lot.)
 
I returned to football +- 2 years back (ale house team; I'm 29) after a very lengthy absence. I could comfortably run an hour at a decent pace, but still that's entirely different from an actual match (after 30 minutes I was exhausted). For me it's a whole lot easier to run a long time at a steady pace than the constant accelerations in football. So honestly I think if you do a couple half an hour (preferably start shorter) runs a week and play actual matches that you'll start improving quickly.

I wouldn't play fullback if I were you though, you constantly have to run up and down the field. Lots of running. I play centre-back, less running, more fun. Preferably Vorstopper (the German word; I don't remember how you call it in English. The player that mainly man marks the striker out of the game. Gary Neville played the role a lot.)

Grock ;)
 
Did the Marmotte cycle sportive route a couple of months ago. Hard work to say the least.

Climbs like the Alpe aren't too bad when you do them on their own. Doing them with a lot of miles in your legs though is very different. I remember doing the Mortirolo having done the Gavia and a few small drags before it. Don't think I've ever suffered so much in my life.
 

Climbs like the Alpe aren't too bad when you do them on their own. Doing them with a lot of miles in your legs though is very different. I remember doing the Mortirolo having done the Gavia and a few small drags before it. Don't think I've ever suffered so much in my life.

Ye the Alpe is a piece of cake in isolation.
 
Looking to shed about half a stone quickly.

I'm good with my eating and exercise and I'm currently training for a 10k in November. Should be on course for a 50/55 minute finish, which is my target.

Issue with me is I really can't seem to shift a bit of fat despite my running/gym work.

I do enjoy cardio more than weight training, which bores me, but when I'm in the gym I'll do interval training (usually on the treadmill following a warm up on the bike/rower, then do a mix of free weights, machine work and core work.

Just wondering if there's any way to speed up the process that you guys can recommend? Looking to tone up more than anything, but ideally get down to about 12 stone 7 (I'm currently 13.1).

In my running peak (aged 16-17 in 2011-2012) I dropped from 13 stone 6 to 10 stone 10 in the space of about nine months.

Slowly gained that weight back but part of that is naturally growing and filling out a bit as well - my body shape is different now to what it was when I was 16! So I know how to do it and how it can work for me.

I have found that the running has at times been a real struggle to have the energy while doing it. The interval training is fine, but up until the last few weeks, outdoor runs were hitting me hard at about the 2.5 mile mark, and it didn't feel right.

Have managed to get it back a bit in the last three weeks or so and last week I did an 8k outdoor run in around 40 minutes, which is my furthest outdoor for a long time.

Need to decide whether to go gym or a run after work. Wanted to do a long one yesterday morning but only managed to squeeze three miles in as I'm not great with running in the mornings and had to stop to avert some bodily-function-related disaster!
 
How much running do you do in general, BlueToff? It sounds like you're fit, are an experienced runner, but then you say stuff that sounds more like a beginner - 2.5 mile runs outside are hitting you hard? 50-55 min 10K for a young, experienced runner is also pretty sedate. I'd aim for this if I was doing a 10K next month, and I do next to no running and am a lot older and fatter than you.

One thing that is in vogue for cycling, and probably holds for running to, is that your easy rides are too hard, and your hard rides are too easy. Avoid grey miles. In other words, always going out and going moderately hard is a poor way to get race fit - you need to bury yourself on an interval day, and go very easy zone1 or 2 on other days. Like a 5 mile run just ticking over and not breathing hard at all.
 

Looking to shed about half a stone quickly.

I'm good with my eating and exercise and I'm currently training for a 10k in November. Should be on course for a 50/55 minute finish, which is my target.

Issue with me is I really can't seem to shift a bit of fat despite my running/gym work.

I do enjoy cardio more than weight training, which bores me, but when I'm in the gym I'll do interval training (usually on the treadmill following a warm up on the bike/rower, then do a mix of free weights, machine work and core work.

Just wondering if there's any way to speed up the process that you guys can recommend? Looking to tone up more than anything, but ideally get down to about 12 stone 7 (I'm currently 13.1).

In my running peak (aged 16-17 in 2011-2012) I dropped from 13 stone 6 to 10 stone 10 in the space of about nine months.

Slowly gained that weight back but part of that is naturally growing and filling out a bit as well - my body shape is different now to what it was when I was 16! So I know how to do it and how it can work for me.

I have found that the running has at times been a real struggle to have the energy while doing it. The interval training is fine, but up until the last few weeks, outdoor runs were hitting me hard at about the 2.5 mile mark, and it didn't feel right.

Have managed to get it back a bit in the last three weeks or so and last week I did an 8k outdoor run in around 40 minutes, which is my furthest outdoor for a long time.

Need to decide whether to go gym or a run after work. Wanted to do a long one yesterday morning but only managed to squeeze three miles in as I'm not great with running in the mornings and had to stop to avert some bodily-function-related disaster!

You don`t mention you`re diet / drinking habits mate.

Even if you`re training and still eating crap / caning the ale, you`ll still find it difficult to lose the pounds.

Eat sensibly for 6 days and have a " day off " on one day and try to moderate your drinking.

Plus when you have a hangover, you just eat crap all day as a result.

* There`s a cracking book - Daniels Running Formula, that is a great for all levels of running.

The reason I think it`s so good, is that it gives " nuts and bolts " advice, no gimmicks, no jargon, just proper advice.
 
You don`t mention you`re diet / drinking habits mate.

Even if you`re training and still eating crap / caning the ale, you`ll still find it difficult to lose the pounds.

Eat sensibly for 6 days and have a " day off " on one day and try to moderate your drinking.

Plus when you have a hangover, you just eat crap all day as a result.

* There`s a cracking book - Daniels Running Formula, that is a great for all levels of running.

The reason I think it`s so good, is that it gives " nuts and bolts " advice, no gimmicks, no jargon, just proper advice.

Ah, I'm not eating badly at all mate - I never have in the last five/six years at all. Hardly drink - I've been working full on for the last few weeks so haven't had chance and I don't drink at home. It's very rare that I'll drink more than two nights a week even if I'm not busy. Have cut bread out over the last few weeks.

I've naturally got a slow metabolism, so I do tend to plateau. I prefer not to calorie watch and rather just genuinely stick to a sensible balanced diet. I usually skip lunch as I'm not hungry, and will snack on fruit/nuts.

It's just trying to shed it quickly really. Nothing wrong with a long process but I feel as if I've been stuck on this level for a while now and while my fitness is back up to a decent level, the weight/fat is still there, so I am open to trying something different.

Did fasting (the Joe Rogan way of an 8-10 hour eating window per-day) back in May and I felt good. I may start that again.
 
How much running do you do in general, BlueToff? It sounds like you're fit, are an experienced runner, but then you say stuff that sounds more like a beginner - 2.5 mile runs outside are hitting you hard? 50-55 min 10K for a young, experienced runner is also pretty sedate. I'd aim for this if I was doing a 10K next month, and I do next to no running and am a lot older and fatter than you.

One thing that is in vogue for cycling, and probably holds for running to, is that your easy rides are too hard, and your hard rides are too easy. Avoid grey miles. In other words, always going out and going moderately hard is a poor way to get race fit - you need to bury yourself on an interval day, and go very easy zone1 or 2 on other days. Like a 5 mile run just ticking over and not breathing hard at all.

Yeh, this is the thing. I went to the doctors about it back in May but they just fobbed me off with a blood test and couldn't find anything. I've had that on and off over the past few years. At times I'll have bags of energy and will feel just fine, and others it's a genuine struggle for me to get past the 3 mile mark. At the moment I'm feeling good, I just haven't run an entire 10k in a fair while so I'm keeping my expectations within reason.

I do my interval training in the gym on the treadmill (usually, sometimes I mix it up on the bike and rower). Usually 30 mins including a 5 min warm up and warm down, and then intervals of a minute each, at an incline of at least 2 to 3. That's my hard push.

I like to mix it up on the treadmill and also do a bit of a bleep test type exercise (i.e. build up the pace in 30 second sections, usually over the course of about 5 minutes).

Thinking of the toning up really. I've been increasing my weight and core work, and like I've said, I've definitely shed a bit of weight off my legs in recent weeks as well, the clothes fit is always the best measure of that I find! I just want to try and burn through this half a stone or so without having a diet that is going to leave me with less energy for my training.

It also doesn't help that I have to eat about 5 hours before I run/work-out. If I have a sandwhich or anything carby at lunch, forget about it, I won't be able to run until about 8 that night. It's bordering on ridiculous. So if I'm tired from lack of sleep or work piling up (which with two jobs it can do), not being able to eat anything substantial in the build up to a workout is a bit of a nightmare.

Anyway, wary of coming up with excuses! Thanks for the tip on the grey miles and running routes. Will try that out!
 
Ah, I'm not eating badly at all mate - I never have in the last five/six years at all. Hardly drink - I've been working full on for the last few weeks so haven't had chance and I don't drink at home. It's very rare that I'll drink more than two nights a week even if I'm not busy. Have cut bread out over the last few weeks.

I've naturally got a slow metabolism, so I do tend to plateau. I prefer not to calorie watch and rather just genuinely stick to a sensible balanced diet. I usually skip lunch as I'm not hungry, and will snack on fruit/nuts.

It's just trying to shed it quickly really. Nothing wrong with a long process but I feel as if I've been stuck on this level for a while now and while my fitness is back up to a decent level, the weight/fat is still there, so I am open to trying something different.

Did fasting (the Joe Rogan way of an 8-10 hour eating window per-day) back in May and I felt good. I may start that again.

It`s quite simple, more out, less in, plus the first weight you lose is fluid, the fat is harder to shift.

As @Black Belt Jones says, you need to get your metabolism going and as much as it`s painful, interval training is the quickest way to do it.
 
It`s quite simple, more out, less in, plus the first weight you lose is fluid, the fat is harder to shift.

As @Black Belt Jones says, you need to get your metabolism going and as much as it`s painful, interval training is the quickest way to do it.

Yeh, don't mind the interval training - I do quite enjoy it.

I've mainly been back on the running lately as I want to get my distance in for this 10k. The interval training has dropped to once-twice per-week, so I'll try and pick that number back up to three or four in the next few weeks.
 

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