Guardiola to be found out in the premier league

[Chegsy]

Seen this as I was scrolling my phone yesterday. Can’t access the actual article as it’s behind a paywall so have no idea who wrote it or if it’s even a decent piece.

Agree with the headline though. If City have broke rules then punish them but all the rules do is keep the money clubs on top. All this talk about making it fair but there has never been a level playing field due to the revenues these clubs generate. United haven’t won a title since 2012 yet have still been able to throw huge fees round on the likes of Maguire, Lukaku, Pogba and most recently Antony. Now and again a club will break through the glass ceiling but it doesn’t last and the “elite” rise back up.

 

[SussexToffee1980]

My bet is on relegation.

The Premier League has shown its cards now. And if they back down it will set a presadence going forward as to what's is acceptable.

Not to say that other clubs aren't guilt of anything.

I just feel the Premier league has placed itself against a wall on this now and in order to show any relevance they will have to go with a heavy charge.

So my prediction is relegation, with no retrospective changes to titles as that's too complicated

Yep, look at all those Tour De France's with no winner, as it cannot be proven the other riders didn't dope.

This will be a Bjarne Riis situation in which City will still be regarded as the winners of those titles, but with an azerik against their name for each of those and a note of financial doping.

To fill anyone in not in the know, Bjarne Riis won the 1996 Tour De France and I THINK the first (and maybe only) Dane to do so. Many years later he admitted to taking performance enhancing substances during that tour. However, as the admission came something like so many years too late for the UCI to take action, it was decided that he was still the winner of that tour, but with an azerik against his name indicating the doping admission.

 

[IllinoisBlue]

If it is proven that they cheated financially when assembling and growing their team, by hiring the best managers and players, then every club that missed out on a title, or a cup, or a European place, or were relegated, has a grievance against them and they have no place in the Prem.

I am interested to hear the chants when opposition fans respond in their upcoming games.

 

[Bwana]

Probably best not to come onto an Everton forum as a City fan and complain about being shafted by VAR after our game last season. ?

I can't remember such an occasion happening in that game. It clearly hit his sleeve so VAR got it in the end spot on!

 

[catcherintherye]

I'd be shocked if they stripped trophies as that sets a serious precedent and might have a knock on effect up in Scotland with Rangers, which the establishment aren't going to want to deal with in either country

A fine, points deduction and maybe even a relegation could be on the table, but I really don't think they'll take your trophies

And if they do, I think they'll just say there was no Champion that season rather than awarding them to someone else

The issue with backwards looking penalties is it opens up a huge can of worms.

Every 5th place team wants revenue for CL. Every 7th for EL. Every 18th place team for PL revenues. Multiply that by 13 and you have a huge amount of money to pay out (running into billions) that the PL doesnt have.

It will be a forward looking punishment, which is how justice works, and what would be appropriate here. I still think we are years off resolution though.

 

[TrailerTrash]

Just relegate them. 19th, 20th, and city.

Back dating issues such as stripping titles is just too complex.

 

[hallamblue]

We weren't relegated. We had a 12 point deduction, kicked out of the FA Cup and had a £600k fine.

This was changed to 6 points and £1.5mn on appeal and FA Cup ban maintained.

And all waived on the 2nd appeal.

But I do agree with your point that money talks, even more so now than back in 1994.

Apologies, you should have been relegated ?

 

[Wat Tyler]

Yep, look at all those Tour De France's with no winner, as it cannot be proven the other riders didn't dope.

This will be a Bjarne Riis situation in which City will still be regarded as the winners of those titles, but with an azerik against their name for each of those and a note of financial doping.

To fill anyone in not in the know, Bjarne Riis won the 1996 Tour De France and I THINK the first (and maybe only) Dane to do so. Many years later he admitted to taking performance enhancing substances during that tour. However, as the admission came something like so many years too late for the UCI to take action, it was decided that he was still the winner of that tour, but with an azerik against his name indicating the doping admission.

Until Vingegaard last year.

 

[mightymoyes]

Reality check for anyone expecting quick resolution

 

[John96]

Just relegate them. 19th, 20th, and city.

Back dating issues such as stripping titles is just too complex.

If they were to relegate them it should be 20th, 19th, 18th, and City, and then bring 4 clubs up.

COYB!

John

 

[SussexToffee1980]

Talking of Spurs's punishment in 1994/95 that later got rescinded for a pocket money slap on the wrists, Boro a few seasons later got three points taken off them and still stood after appeal for something a lot less serious. They later got relegated and would have finished 14th or 13th otherwise.

No consistency in the FA and there never was.

 

[Walken]

Pep will be long gone when this is resolved and pretending he hasn't worked his entire career without the scales weighted in his favour

 

[JelavicBrate2]

Personally I don't rate him as a manager he inherited a great team at Barca who already knew how to play great. La Liga doesnt have intense away grounds like you have here, he inherited a team at Bayern who had already won all major trophies and didn't win anything different. Him and Klopps recent success is built on doping, just like those lot they randomly seemed to become world class, in the 2016/2017 season they both started excellently then went downhill at Christmas, City out of nowhere after a last minute Bounmouth win, became world class, just like those lot their form dropped after 2 years, then back to normal. A better thing to investigate is them and Liverpool's mysterious success that doesn't fit with the norms of the premier league.

 

[Marius57]

If they were to relegate them it should be 20th, 19th, 18th, and City, and then bring 4 clubs up.

COYB!

John

Why would you want that as an Everton fan in our current position?

COYB!

Marius

 

[Walken]

Personally I don't rate him as a manager he inherited a great team at Barca who already knew how to play great. La Liga doesnt have intense away grounds like you have here, he inherited a team at Bayern who had already won all major trophies and didn't win anything different. Him and Klopps recent success is built on doping, just like those lot they randomly seemed to become world class, in the 2016/2017 season they both started excellently then went downhill at Christmas, City out of nowhere after a last minute Bounmouth win, became world class, just like those lot their form dropped after 2 years, then back to normal. A better thing to investigate is them and Liverpool's mysterious success that doesn't fit with the norms of the premier league.

He is clearly a brilliant coach but every single job he has taken winning the league is par, as a result he slips way down the list of great managers as he has never built anything. On top of that his fanboys are the rogan listeners of the football world