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2018/19 Gylfi Sigurdsson

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Again, if he doesn't score or assist he's labelled as crap and anonymous. And then when he does something, people say "yeah, well apart from scoring the winning goal, what did he do?". This thread probably needs to be locked because it's full of the same posters saying the exact same thing regardless of how the game has gone.

He's not going to run games like a box to box player will, that's not his role. But he's our second top scorer and best assisted, why do people moan? Same as the weirdos moaning that lukaku just scored goals.
 
Think about the formation for a minute and ask yourself "where does a 10 fit in there?".

I hope you are kidding. I'll give you a hint, part of the middle 3. You know, where Sigurdsson has played 75% of the time on the ptich. In a 4-3-3.

Honestly, if you don't think we are playing Silva's 4-3-3, I don't know what to tell you.
 
I hope you are kidding. I'll give you a hint, part of the middle 3. You know, where Sigurdsson has played 75% of the time on the ptich. In a 4-3-3.

Honestly, if you don't think we are playing Silva's 4-3-3, I don't know what to tell you.
Oh, you mean the place where he was in for a few games and was the worst player on the pitch by a significant margin?
 
Again, if he doesn't score or assist he's labelled as crap and anonymous. And then when he does something, people say "yeah, well apart from scoring the winning goal, what did he do?". This thread probably needs to be locked because it's full of the same posters saying the exact same thing regardless of how the game has gone.

He's not going to run games like a box to box player will, that's not his role. But he's our second top scorer and best assisted, why do people moan? Same as the weirdos moaning that lukaku just scored goals.
While I can, and do, appreciate Siggy’s good points, he was very poor in the first half today and did little, if anything, right, in the second half he improved, as did a lot of the team and contributed to the victory and he got a good round of
applause when he went off,he possibly could do with a rest, he’s played almost continually all season.
 

Again, if he doesn't score or assist he's labelled as crap and anonymous. And then when he does something, people say "yeah, well apart from scoring the winning goal, what did he do?". This thread probably needs to be locked because it's full of the same posters saying the exact same thing regardless of how the game has gone.

He's not going to run games like a box to box player will, that's not his role. But he's our second top scorer and best assisted, why do people moan? Same as the weirdos moaning that lukaku just scored goals.

They moan because he doesn't hold the ball and some of our supporters don't understand how that could possibly be a bad thing. Same posters that think Ross Barkely is good. Because he holds the ball and did while he was here.

3 key passes again today. He was average for him. Not his best performance, but not his worst.
 
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/69346/Show/Gylfi-Sigurdsson

In CM? Ehmm...no?

It's not that difficult to see, if he isn't effective as a #10 he isn't effective at all. And he hasn't been that effective this season outside of about 6-7 matches where he was stellar.

Sorry, he's third on the team, just behind Michael Keane and Digne. So at least SOME people have some sense.

I'm not even sure what you are saying. He's not a CM. We know that. What's your point?
 

Sorry, he's third on the team, just behind Michael Keane and Digne. So at least SOME people have some sense.

I'm not even sure what you are saying. He's not a CM. We know that. What's your point?
Ok, once again. WHERE do you want Gylfi in a 4-3-3? You literally said "in the middle 3" which I am going to take a leap of faith and take it you have an idea of what middle means and mean 4-3-3. He's never been effective there. I just showed you that as well. His average "rating" as a CM was in the 6 which is pathetic.
 
Ok, once again. WHERE do you want Gylfi in a 4-3-3? You literally said "in the middle 3" which I am going to take a leap of faith and take it you have an idea of what middle means and mean 4-3-3. He's never been effective there. I just showed you that as well. His average "rating" as a CM was in the 6 which is pathetic.
You do realize that part of the middle three includes a 6, an 8, and a 10, correct? Gana, Gomes, Gylfi. That's what we've been playing. That's one of two variants that Silva uses in his 4-3-3. The other is effectively a 4-2-1-3 as I've said before with two defensive mids (Capoue / Doucoure) and a pivot that plays as a 10, but sits a bit deeper (Cleverly). Sigurdsson can play in both formations.
 
Poor in the first half, better in the second. Having just watched the extended highlights back, he was actually heavily involved in most of our good play. Set up 2 decent chances for Richarlison, which he couldn’t finish.
 
You do realize that part of the middle three includes a 6, an 8, and a 10, correct? Gana, Gomes, Gylfi. That's what we've been playing. That's one of two variants that Silva uses in his 4-3-3. The other is effectively a 4-2-1-3 as I've said before with two defensive mids (Capoue / Doucoure) and a pivot that plays as a 10, but sits a bit deeper (Cleverly). Sigurdsson can play in both formations.
But he's pretty terrible playing in that area. Just because he's "a 10" doesn't mean he can immediately be better at playing deep.
 
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/69346/Show/Gylfi-Sigurdsson

In CM? Ehmm...no?

It's not that difficult to see, if he isn't effective as a #10 he isn't effective at all. And he hasn't been that effective this season outside of about 6-7 matches where he was stellar.
Sorry, he's third on the team, just behind Michael Keane and Digne. So at least SOME people have some sense.

I'm not even sure what you are saying. He's not a CM. We know that. What's your point?
You do realize that part of the middle three includes a 6, an 8, and a 10, correct? Gana, Gomes, Gylfi. That's what we've been playing. That's one of two variants that Silva uses in his 4-3-3. The other is effectively a 4-2-1-3 as I've said before with two defensive mids (Capoue / Doucoure) and a pivot that plays as a 10, but sits a bit deeper (Cleverly). Sigurdsson can play in both formations.

I think its been established that Sigurdsson;

Cant play CM
Is a passenger for 75% of matches
Only performs when the team is on top

Also @riddick made the point that on the whoscored stats, when playing as a CM he is the 7th best player in the team. His stats at ACM are still good but dropping every week as his half a dozen excellent games has skewed them massively.

As for us playing a 433, well Gana is at 6...Gomes has to drop back almost into a 6 position to receive the ball so they are fairly close together on paper at least. Then theres a massive gap with Sigurdsson very high up the pitch...

Looks to me like a 4231
 

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