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Ricky no one cares mate. Gylfi is badly average.
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Ricky no one cares mate. Gylfi is badly average.
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Are we really comparing Barkley's output as a number 10 over a FULL season with Sigurdsson's played out of position over 3 QUARTERS of a season?
REALLY?
REALLY?
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He rejoined a few days ago, I have been waiting for him to post
But that was last season, when he wasn`t playing for us.
Who gives a flying one ?
He`s been average at best for us, despite however many Youtube clips and stats you want to throw at us.
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No.
We are comparing PER GAME totals between Ross Barkley who played on the right of a front 3 or part of a central 3 midfield last season against Gylfi Sigurdsson who has played in either the #10 or the left side of a front 3 this season.
This Sigurdsson "position" thing is hilarious. He has played centre midfield, left midfield, left of a front 3, behind the striker or up front over the last 5 years. And equally anonymous but productive in each of them.
Also ignores the fact he played up front rather than in midfield and only 6 of his goals (from over 100 shots) were open play.
If he'd taken Rooney's penalties this season he'd have 8 or so goals already. It is why stats people don't count them.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
For 45M I would expect him to be able to play well in goal let alone a few yards away from his "preferred position".
FC sexy xxx
Player Valuation: £35m
his fee has got nothing to do with it
RickyRyder
Player Valuation: £25k
You spend every day of your life stalking this thread, clearly you do care. Why else would you comment?
It shows what he can do when deployed correctly with the right team mates around him.
12 goals/assists in 31 apps without taking penalties. He didn't score or assist in his first 10 PL matches either.
Remove that dry spell & he has 12 goals/assists in 21 apps.
If he took penalties instead of Rooney or Baines he would have 18-21 goals/assists in 21 apps.
Gylfi would have 10-11 goals this season & the Premier League's 8th or 9th highest goal scorer if he took them.
He has been our most consistent player this season. He almost always delivers a top performance, and it's clear for everyone to see that he is better deployed centrally than on the wing.
28 matches into 2016/17
Gylfi: 8 goals, 11 assists.
Barkley: 4 goals, 5 assists.
Sigurdsson had more assists than Barkley had goals & assists combined.
Ouch. Now that's embarrassing.
19 of his 25 PL matches have been at LW this season. Behind the striker twice and right wing twice each. Only once in central midfield.
He has hardly gotten a chance to play his true position, and when he has it has usually been with DCL/Davies.
Wrong. Gylfi literally played the same role last season as he is doing for us this season. That's why only 41% of his goals & assists were in open play.
On average 75% of his goals & assists are in open play when deployed upfront or as the Playmaker.
The only season he played upfront was during the 2nd half of 2015/16, where he scored 9 goals & made 3 assists in 14 matches.
Here's how he is as a striker
Here's how he is as a Playmaker/Winger
Since our 2-2 against Palace Gylfi would have 10-11 goals in the PL if he took Baines & Rooney's penalties.
He would also have a lot more assists if DCL didn't miss so many 1on1's. He has cost Gylfi at least 4 assists.
He did that during his last season for Swansea, but he also had Olsson (Fast, ultra-attracking LB) and Llorente/Mawson/VDH as target men.
He wasn't as creative in open play as in 14/15 or 11/12, because he had no left winger to pass to.
This is how good Gylfi is when he actually has someone to pass to on the left.
This made it very easy for their opponents to defend Swansea's right side without being punished from the lack of pace on the left.
Gylfi & Olsson however managed to solve this problem on several occasions, linking up very well & putting him 1on1.
Without that left winger for him to pass to, the team becomes disjointed & heavily reliant on the right side. In the win against Leicester both Coleman & Walcott were able to consistently play themselves out of trouble.
Kenny's decision making isn't good enough to linkup well with Walcott, which means we have two liabilities on the flanks in attack. Both players have their moments but rarely contribute consistently.
We need to field a symmetrical XI. Something along the lines of this:
If Baines is still injured then I'd put Funes Mori at LB & play Williams next to Keane.
Tosun is capable of playing LW. He's good defensively, provides more pace & strength than Gylfi, and at this point I'd rather see anybody else at LW other than Gylfi.
In an ideal world we sign a new CM to replace Rooney, a new left winger for Bolasie, a new LB for Baines, a new CB for Keane, and a target man.
You spend every day of your life stalking this thread, clearly you do care. Why else would you comment?
It shows what he can do when deployed correctly with the right team mates around him.
12 goals/assists in 31 apps without taking penalties. He didn't score or assist in his first 10 PL matches either.
Remove that dry spell & he has 12 goals/assists in 21 apps.
If he took penalties instead of Rooney or Baines he would have 18-21 goals/assists in 21 apps.
Gylfi would have 10-11 goals this season & the Premier League's 8th or 9th highest goal scorer if he took them.
He has been our most consistent player this season. He almost always delivers a top performance, and it's clear for everyone to see that he is better deployed centrally than on the wing.
28 matches into 2016/17
Gylfi: 8 goals, 11 assists.
Barkley: 4 goals, 5 assists.
Sigurdsson had more assists than Barkley had goals & assists combined.
Ouch. Now that's embarrassing.
19 of his 25 PL matches have been at LW this season. Behind the striker twice and right wing twice each. Only once in central midfield.
He has hardly gotten a chance to play his true position, and when he has it has usually been with DCL/Davies.
Wrong. Gylfi literally played the same role last season as he is doing for us this season. That's why only 41% of his goals & assists were in open play.
On average 75% of his goals & assists are in open play when deployed upfront or as the Playmaker.
The only season he played upfront was during the 2nd half of 2015/16, where he scored 9 goals & made 3 assists in 14 matches.
Here's how he is as a striker
Here's how he is as a Playmaker/Winger
Since our 2-2 against Palace Gylfi would have 10-11 goals in the PL if he took Baines & Rooney's penalties.
He would also have a lot more assists if DCL didn't miss so many 1on1's. He has cost Gylfi at least 4 assists.
He did that during his last season for Swansea, but he also had Olsson (Fast, ultra-attracking LB) and Llorente/Mawson/VDH as target men.
He wasn't as creative in open play as in 14/15 or 11/12, because he had no left winger to pass to.
This is how good Gylfi is when he actually has someone to pass to on the left.
This made it very easy for their opponents to defend Swansea's right side without being punished from the lack of pace on the left.
Gylfi & Olsson however managed to solve this problem on several occasions, linking up very well & putting him 1on1.
Without that left winger for him to pass to, the team becomes disjointed & heavily reliant on the right side. In the win against Leicester both Coleman & Walcott were able to consistently play themselves out of trouble.
Kenny's decision making isn't good enough to linkup well with Walcott, which means we have two liabilities on the flanks in attack. Both players have their moments but rarely contribute consistently.
We need to field a symmetrical XI. Something along the lines of this:
If Baines is still injured then I'd put Funes Mori at LB & play Williams next to Keane.
Tosun is capable of playing LW. He's good defensively, provides more pace & strength than Gylfi, and at this point I'd rather see anybody else at LW other than Gylfi.
In an ideal world we sign a new CM to replace Rooney, a new left winger for Bolasie, a new LB for Baines, a new CB for Keane, and a target man.
LOLLLLLLLL and out come the stats, Youtube clips and diagrams.
Welcome back Ricky.
Shine on you crazy diamond
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