I don't get why we ban Ricky for being a Gylfi fan haha.
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Don’t push it palWhy would you care though? You're just going to ban me for posting stats/facts/video's anyway
Totally why Everton spent £45 million on him.
The beauty of Sigurdsson playing centrally is that it allows him to play any position & role he wants.
Centrally he can shoot/cross/pass on both feet, cutting inside on either foot or running down the flanks.
He can play deeper or further up the pitch, and most importantly he wont have to worry about tracking back as much.
Whenever he plays LW he seems to be in two minds, either too focused on attacking or
defending.
Upfront he gets lost, with very little influence on the ball.
As a central midfielder he plays as a deep-lying playmaker, which means he has fewer opportunities to create chances.
For Iceland he usually plays in-behind the striker, but for whatever reason the manager
decided to waste him as a defensive midfielder in the 2016 Euro's. He was great defensively but created far fewer chances.
You get the best of both worlds with him in-behind the striker. Yet he has less than 5 games for us there.
Not good enough on the ball? Name one player better at passing, crossing or shooting the ball on both feet in the PL.
Iceland are a possession heavy based team, and Gylfi often makes 60-80+ passes in a single match for them.
Yet for Everton & Swansea he has averaged 25 passes per match since 2016/17? Because he isn't playing centrally.
Gylfi is slow in acceleration, fast in full sprint.
In counter attacks he offers literally everything barring the initial burst of pace needed to get past players.
Instead he will pick out passes or position himself for a cross/shot inside or outside the box.
He scored our only counter attack goal all season against Liverpool in the FA cup.
Everything you criticized him for is illegitimate or only applies to him at LW.
There is a reason why Liverpool & Tottenham bid £25 million for him in the same window we got him in.
There is a reason why Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, AC Milan & Inter Milan along with several other clubs were after him.
Gylfi received multiple £35-45 million bids outside of England, but he knows that the premier league is the best league in the world, and that Everton are only a few signings away from potentially winning trophies & getting into Champions League.
Keep in mind, Everton at their worst are currently 9th in the premier league. We've hit rock bottom, so we're only going to improve.
Gylfi can literally play anywhere in the front 3 or in midfield. Defensively he's good enough to be a PL fullback.
I don't know anybody else capable of playing so many positions.
First of all Gylfi did brilliantly at LW during the 2nd half of last season with only a LB named Martin Olsson to provide width.
Swansea didn't played with a right winger, and had a horrendously poor RB. Olsson was Swansea's only wide player.
Gylfi still managed to play brilliantly, nothing you said about him applies to Sigurdsson at LW when he had Baines or Olsson at LB instead of Martina.
KDB/Eriksen/Coutinho/Ozil/Mahrez and any other playmaker would perform terribly with DCL/Davies/Rooney/Martina/Kenny and the rest of this average squad.
We had Mirallas and Lennon playing for us this season for gods sake.
Gylfi only managed 5 set piece assists in his 5 PL seasons prior to 2016/17 where he got 8 throughout the whole campaign.
He might be a set piece expert, but I'd take his open play skillset over his set pieces any day of the week.
Williams & DCL are the only players that have scored from from a set piece this season (barring penalties)
Williams wasted Sigurdsson's set piece chances horribly while he was at Swansea. Yet he is our only player that has scored for us? Just shows how bad the rest of our team is.
He's the only player in our squad that consistently plays the ball forward. If there's a player open then he will make the pass, simple as that.
Mane is arguably the best LW'er in the PL right now, definitely better than Hazard or Sanchez on current form.
Now what do all of those players have in common? They're one footed. Mahrez is the only playmaker out of those players, and the rest are purely wingers.
There is not a chance in hell that they can score or assist goals in the same fashion Gylfi does, fast players are rarely extremely technical, and Gylfi is the perfect example of a player who purely relies on technique due to his lack of pace & strength.
I agree with Bolasie & Klaassen, but Sigurdsson was miles better than all of those players last season, and in every other PL season while he was at Swansea.
All of those players barring Mahrez play for a good team, can you even imagine how many goals or assists Gylfi would have starting for any of the Top 4? He'd be putting KDB to shame just like he did last season.
I was hoping that Everton would acknowledge how poorly Swansea utilized him on the wing last season & not make the same mistake, but alas I was wrong. On the other hand Everton at their worst are still somehow in the top half of the table while Swansea at their worst were 20th around Christmas.
I'm glad he jumped ships but this club needs to man up and play him centrally.
It's not like he has a target man to aim for. Where is our Llorente, Mawson, Van der Hoorn? We don't have one player even close to as good as them in the air.
I don't understand how he could outperform the best playmakers in the PL for Swansea & somehow not be worth £45mil? Any of the Top 4 playmakers are worth more than that, and he was better than them for years.
Gylfi can play at this level for another 8-10 years, I don't expect him to finish his career with Everton.
He doesn't rely on pace, and players like Laudrup/Zidane retired at their prime.
Gylfi will age like fine wine. Even in his 40's he will still have his set pieces.
Yet everybody around you has been saying it. Weird huh?
The past couple of weeks is proof of his importance to the squad. Right now the team has zero excuses.
Prior to January we had a horrendous squad & XI, with no Baines/Coleman/Walcott/Tosun/Bolasie.
Right now we have all of those players back, and our only player missing is Sigurdsson.
So there are zero excuses. Either the team heavily relies on Sigurdsson or we need to get rid of half the team.
Imagine allowing this kopite trash of a person to comment here.
Gylfi literally never had good set piece stats for Swansea barring last season. 5 set piece assists in 5 PL seasons from 2011/12 to 2015/16.
He only started taking penalties in 2015/16, and Shelvey/Ki took most free kicks from 14/15 to 15/16.
Ox literally cant do 1/4th of what Sigurdsson is capable of. Instead he has tremendous pace.
How well would any Playmaker in the world perform with Rooney & Davies behind you, Niasse upfront with DCL & Mirallas as wingers? Not to mention Martina & Kenny as fullbacks.
All of those players barring Gudmundsson average 23-48% more passes than Sigurdsson did this season & last season.
Naturally when you have almost 50% more passes per match you'll have a lot more key passes per 90 minutes.
Essentially your comparison is flawed, you should be dividing the total passes with total key passes/chances/assists. In which case Gylfi is among the best in the PL.
Why not compare Sigurdsson to those players when he averaged a similar amount of passes?
Like your multi says, you just can`t keep Ricky down.
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Kever10
Player Valuation: £20m
I have been, most recently I commented on a Seamus Coleman thread. I've also participated on Tosun's & Vlasic's thread.
Why would you care though? You're just going to ban me for posting stats/facts/video's anyway
But this thread is by far the most entertaining, even though it has multiple users spamming the thread bringing nothing to the table.
You know what the mad thing is about that video? All of those goals are boss, and in days gone by, if we had a player who did that sort of stuff in 1 season, he'd probably be my favourite player.
But I still think he's been bang average WITH those goals. That's how average he's been. That highlight reel of worldies has moved him up a notch. Now he's on notch one.
Ask yourself this...
Has Sigurdsson dominated, ran or dictated a game for us in the same way that Rooney has, or any of Fellaini, Arteta, Gravesen or Hutchinson from days gone by?
For me, the answer is no.
He has produced moments of genuine quality while consistently being on the periphery of everything we do.
Maybe next year, with a full pre season behind him, a year away from the spotlight (if we make some decent signings) and a different set up with a different manager, he might settle in and be the player you think he is. But this season has been a bit underwhelming and he scored a 50 yard volley and a Derby goal at Anfield.
Make of that what you will.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
If we had Arteta in this team now I dread to think what we would have paid for him. Back then we moaned that him and Pienaar weren’t strong enough or big enough but my god if Gylfi was half the player Arteta was no one would question the price tag.
I think it`s because it`s counter productive to his therapy mate.
Totally why Everton spent £45 million on him.
The beauty of Sigurdsson playing centrally is that it allows him to play any position & role he wants.
Centrally he can shoot/cross/pass on both feet, cutting inside on either foot or running down the flanks.
He can play deeper or further up the pitch, and most importantly he wont have to worry about tracking back as much.
Whenever he plays LW he seems to be in two minds, either too focused on attacking or defending.
Upfront he gets lost, with very little influence on the ball.
As a central midfielder he plays as a deep-lying playmaker, which means he has fewer opportunities to create chances.
For Iceland he usually plays in-behind the striker, but for whatever reason the manager decided to waste him as a defensive midfielder in the 2016 Euro's. He was great defensively but created far fewer chances.
You get the best of both worlds with him in-behind the striker. Yet he has less than 5 games for us there.
Not good enough on the ball? Name one player better at passing, crossing or shooting the ball on both feet in the PL.
Iceland are a possession heavy based team, and Gylfi often makes 60-80+ passes in a single match for them.
Yet for Everton & Swansea he has averaged 25 passes per match since 2016/17? Because he isn't playing centrally.
Gylfi is slow in acceleration, fast in full sprint.
In counter attacks he offers literally everything barring the initial burst of pace needed to get past players.
Instead he will pick out passes or position himself for a cross/shot inside or outside the box.
He scored our only counter attack goal all season against Liverpool in the FA cup.
Everything you criticized him for is illegitimate or only applies to him at LW.
There is a reason why Liverpool & Tottenham bid £25 million for him in the same window we got him in.
There is a reason why Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, AC Milan & Inter Milan along with several other clubs were after him.
Gylfi received multiple £35-45 million bids outside of England, but he knows that the premier league is the best league in the world, and that Everton are only a few signings away from potentially winning trophies & getting into Champions League.
Keep in mind, Everton at their worst are currently 9th in the premier league. We've hit rock bottom, so we're only going to improve.
Gylfi can literally play anywhere in the front 3 or in midfield. Defensively he's good enough to be a PL fullback.
I don't know anybody else capable of playing so many positions.
First of all Gylfi did brilliantly at LW during the 2nd half of last season with only a LB named Martin Olsson to provide width.
Swansea didn't played with a right winger, and had a horrendously poor RB. Olsson was Swansea's only wide player.
Gylfi still managed to play brilliantly, nothing you said about him applies to Sigurdsson at LW when he had Baines or Olsson at LB instead of Martina.
KDB/Eriksen/Coutinho/Ozil/Mahrez and any other playmaker would perform terribly with DCL/Davies/Rooney/Martina/Kenny and the rest of this average squad.
We had Mirallas and Lennon playing for us this season for gods sake.
Gylfi only managed 5 set piece assists in his 5 PL seasons prior to 2016/17 where he got 8 throughout the whole campaign.
He might be a set piece expert, but I'd take his open play skillset over his set pieces any day of the week.
Williams & DCL are the only players that have scored from from a set piece this season (barring penalties)
Williams wasted Sigurdsson's set piece chances horribly while he was at Swansea. Yet he is our only player that has scored for us? Just shows how bad the rest of our team is.
He's the only player in our squad that consistently plays the ball forward. If there's a player open then he will make the pass, simple as that.
Mane is arguably the best LW'er in the PL right now, definitely better than Hazard or Sanchez on current form.
Now what do all of those players have in common? They're one footed. Mahrez is the only playmaker out of those players, and the rest are purely wingers.
There is not a chance in hell that they can score or assist goals in the same fashion Gylfi does, fast players are rarely extremely technical, and Gylfi is the perfect example of a player who purely relies on technique due to his lack of pace & strength.
I agree with Bolasie & Klaassen, but Sigurdsson was miles better than all of those players last season, and in every other PL season while he was at Swansea.
All of those players barring Mahrez play for a good team, can you even imagine how many goals or assists Gylfi would have starting for any of the Top 4? He'd be putting KDB to shame just like he did last season.
I was hoping that Everton would acknowledge how poorly Swansea utilized him on the wing last season & not make the same mistake, but alas I was wrong. On the other hand Everton at their worst are still somehow in the top half of the table while Swansea at their worst were 20th around Christmas.
I'm glad he jumped ships but this club needs to man up and play him centrally.
It's not like he has a target man to aim for. Where is our Llorente, Mawson, Van der Hoorn? We don't have one player even close to as good as them in the air.
I don't understand how he could outperform the best playmakers in the PL for Swansea & somehow not be worth £45mil? Any of the Top 4 playmakers are worth more than that, and he was better than them for years.
Gylfi can play at this level for another 8-10 years, I don't expect him to finish his career with Everton.
He doesn't rely on pace, and players like Laudrup/Zidane retired at their prime.
Gylfi will age like fine wine. Even in his 40's he will still have his set pieces.
Yet everybody around you has been saying it. Weird huh?
The past couple of weeks is proof of his importance to the squad. Right now the team has zero excuses.
Prior to January we had a horrendous squad & XI, with no Baines/Coleman/Walcott/Tosun/Bolasie.
Right now we have all of those players back, and our only player missing is Sigurdsson.
So there are zero excuses. Either the team heavily relies on Sigurdsson or we need to get rid of half the team.
Imagine allowing this kopite trash of a person to comment here.
Gylfi literally never had good set piece stats for Swansea barring last season. 5 set piece assists in 5 PL seasons from 2011/12 to 2015/16.
He only started taking penalties in 2015/16, and Shelvey/Ki took most free kicks from 14/15 to 15/16.
Ox literally cant do 1/4th of what Sigurdsson is capable of. Instead he has tremendous pace.
How well would any Playmaker in the world perform with Rooney & Davies behind you, Niasse upfront with DCL & Mirallas as wingers? Not to mention Martina & Kenny as fullbacks.
All of those players barring Gudmundsson average 23-48% more passes than Sigurdsson did this season & last season.
Naturally when you have almost 50% more passes per match you'll have a lot more key passes per 90 minutes.
Essentially your comparison is flawed, you should be dividing the total passes with total key passes/chances/assists. In which case Gylfi is among the best in the PL.
Why not compare Sigurdsson to those players when he averaged a similar amount of passes?
You’re one mad cat Ricky, that’s some dedication.
But TLDR and your boy is still gash
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CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
I still just don't understand how anyone can say he's been GASH. He's clearly been at least decent. Who has been better? Seriously.
I also would LOVE to see him with Coleman at RB, Baines at LB (or someone better), Tosun up front, Walcott on the right, even Bolaisse on the left (or someone better), Gana playing 6, and Tom Davies (ideally someone much better) as the 8, with Gylfi at the 10. Mix in a new CB or two that can pass and I believe that lineup would score goals for certain and I think he'd look pretty good.
The price tag argument is fine.
And he's been better than the Ox, that is just silly. Don't ban the guy just because he loves Sigurdsson, he plays for us, man. It's okay to like and root for one of our own. Ban the Kopite.
I also would LOVE to see him with Coleman at RB, Baines at LB (or someone better), Tosun up front, Walcott on the right, even Bolaisse on the left (or someone better), Gana playing 6, and Tom Davies (ideally someone much better) as the 8, with Gylfi at the 10. Mix in a new CB or two that can pass and I believe that lineup would score goals for certain and I think he'd look pretty good.
The price tag argument is fine.
And he's been better than the Ox, that is just silly. Don't ban the guy just because he loves Sigurdsson, he plays for us, man. It's okay to like and root for one of our own. Ban the Kopite.
SiggyRider is a United fan though mate. I do want to keep him around though, the utter loon.
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
Think you'll find it's not just since he's been injured
I bashed him at Swansea to be fair, he was an overrated biff there as well
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
Definitely one of our biggest problems.
Fk off Gylfi.
Fk off Gylfi.
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