2017/18 Gylfi Sigurdsson

[roydo]

Whilst he hasn't looked like the best central midfielder in the world he is still a brilliant player.

Its the attitude stuff that would grind my gears, cos as you say, he is a brilliant player.

But seemingly, an absolute tool.

 

[AndyC]

Its the attitude stuff that would grind my gears, cos as you say, he is a brilliant player.

But seemingly, an absolute tool.

Still on Pogba, maybe a new thread in World Footie might be better

 

[roydo]

Still on Pogba, maybe a new thread in World Footie might be better

Soz mate, was a small swerve re value for money/resale price circa the Gylfi fee.

 

[RickyRiders]

There is a very good chance he won't get in the team under a competent manager.

Totally why Everton spent £45 million on him.

It is very hard to accomodate Gylfi in his preferred position. If the only place he can play is just off the striker, whilst not getting involved in build up play, then it puts a lot of pressure on the rest of the midfield to build up play.

The beauty of Sigurdsson playing centrally is that it allows him to play any position & role he wants.

Centrally he can shoot/cross/pass on both feet, cutting inside on either foot or running down the flanks.

He can play deeper or further up the pitch, and most importantly he wont have to worry about tracking back as much.

Whenever he plays LW he seems to be in two minds, either too focused on attacking or defending.

Upfront he gets lost, with very little influence on the ball.

As a central midfielder he plays as a deep-lying playmaker, which means he has fewer opportunities to create chances.

For Iceland he usually plays in-behind the striker, but for whatever reason the manager decided to waste him as a defensive midfielder in the 2016 Euro's. He was great defensively but created far fewer chances.

You get the best of both worlds with him in-behind the striker. Yet he has less than 5 games for us there.

He isn't good enough on the ball and doesn't get involved enough for a possession heavy team and isn't fast enough for a counter attacking team.

Not good enough on the ball? Name one player better at passing, crossing or shooting the ball on both feet in the PL.

Iceland are a possession heavy based team, and Gylfi often makes 60-80+ passes in a single match for them.

Yet for Everton & Swansea he has averaged 25 passes per match since 2016/17? Because he isn't playing centrally.

isn't fast enough for a counter attacking team.

Gylfi is slow in acceleration, fast in full sprint.

In counter attacks he offers literally everything barring the initial burst of pace needed to get past players.

Instead he will pick out passes or position himself for a cross/shot inside or outside the box.

He scored our only counter attack goal all season against Liverpool in the FA cup.

Everything you criticized him for is illegitimate or only applies to him at LW.

Hence why the entire footballing world laughed themselves silly at us spending £45m on him.

There is a reason why Liverpool & Tottenham bid £25 million for him in the same window we got him in.

There is a reason why Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, AC Milan & Inter Milan along with several other clubs were after him.

Gylfi received multiple £35-45 million bids outside of England, but he knows that the premier league is the best league in the world, and that Everton are only a few signings away from potentially winning trophies & getting into Champions League.

Keep in mind, Everton at their worst are currently 9th in the premier league. We've hit rock bottom, so we're only going to improve.

He played wide left for Swans and plays as a 10 for Iceland, so he can play more than one position.

Gylfi can literally play anywhere in the front 3 or in midfield. Defensively he's good enough to be a PL fullback.

I don't know anybody else capable of playing so many positions.

‘He can play wide left’ - he has no pace and zero guile, all he does is get it, turn backwards, lay it off then float into a different area to get on the end of something. You want a bit more from a 45 Mill wide player.

First of all Gylfi did brilliantly at LW during the 2nd half of last season with only a LB named Martin Olsson to provide width.

Swansea didn't played with a right winger, and had a horrendously poor RB. Olsson was Swansea's only wide player.

Gylfi still managed to play brilliantly, nothing you said about him applies to Sigurdsson at LW when he had Baines or Olsson at LB instead of Martina.

Yeah you can, I think he’s an absolute waste of money, and the argument of ‘he can play two positions’ is pointless as he plays both badly. I don’t care how much ground he runs or how many assists he had for Swansea, he’s been tosh since he joined us.

KDB/Eriksen/Coutinho/Ozil/Mahrez and any other playmaker would perform terribly with DCL/Davies/Rooney/Martina/Kenny and the rest of this average squad.

We had Mirallas and Lennon playing for us this season for gods sake.

He`s a " dead ball " expert though.

Except all we do is web it out from the back .

Possibly one of the most expensive " pointless " players we`ve ever signed.

@RickyRiders I look forward to your comments sir.

Gylfi only managed 5 set piece assists in his 5 PL seasons prior to 2016/17 where he got 8 throughout the whole campaign.

He might be a set piece expert, but I'd take his open play skillset over his set pieces any day of the week.

If it hadn’t have been for all the corners and free kicks we’ve scored this season.....oh wait.

Williams & DCL are the only players that have scored from from a set piece this season (barring penalties)

Williams wasted Sigurdsson's set piece chances horribly while he was at Swansea. Yet he is our only player that has scored for us? Just shows how bad the rest of our team is.

Has everyone just completely missed how quick his feet actually are in tight situations, he may not be fast but the amount of times i've seen im take oppo players out of the game at Goodison is far more than I've seen from any of our other players. I like him and back him to play well next season

He's the only player in our squad that consistently plays the ball forward. If there's a player open then he will make the pass, simple as that.

45 Mill should get you an attacking player similar to the likes of Mane Mahrez Willian Sane etc. They might not be the absolute top players in the prem but they all have pace, can play almost anywhere in the attacking third, have creativity and guile and improve the team around them. Basically the level above Walcott but not quite Hazard or De Bruyne.

Mane is arguably the best LW'er in the PL right now, definitely better than Hazard or Sanchez on current form.

Now what do all of those players have in common? They're one footed. Mahrez is the only playmaker out of those players, and the rest are purely wingers.

There is not a chance in hell that they can score or assist goals in the same fashion Gylfi does, fast players are rarely extremely technical, and Gylfi is the perfect example of a player who purely relies on technique due to his lack of pace & strength.

For the money we wasted on Siggurdson Bolasie and Klaassen we could have had three of these level of players. We would have been far better developing Lookman and Vlasic this season than wasting time on the three aforementioned.

I agree with Bolasie & Klaassen, but Sigurdsson was miles better than all of those players last season, and in every other PL season while he was at Swansea.

All of those players barring Mahrez play for a good team, can you even imagine how many goals or assists Gylfi would have starting for any of the Top 4? He'd be putting KDB to shame just like he did last season.

It still astounds me we bought a £45m player and, seemingly, NOBODY asked "so, how do you want to play him?"

I was hoping that Everton would acknowledge how poorly Swansea utilized him on the wing last season & not make the same mistake, but alas I was wrong. On the other hand Everton at their worst are still somehow in the top half of the table while Swansea at their worst were 20th around Christmas.

I'm glad he jumped ships but this club needs to man up and play him centrally.

By the way, his set pieces are rubbish too.

It's not like he has a target man to aim for. Where is our Llorente, Mawson, Van der Hoorn? We don't have one player even close to as good as them in the air.

He’s better than what he’s getting credit for on here.

Open your eyes he’s a very good player being played out of position under terrible managers.

He’s not worth 45m but that’s koeman and co.

I don't understand how he could outperform the best playmakers in the PL for Swansea & somehow not be worth £45mil? Any of the Top 4 playmakers are worth more than that, and he was better than them for years.

Only 28? He's reached his peak, we know what he's capable off and it was never and will never be good enough for what we were aspiring to

Gylfi can play at this level for another 8-10 years, I don't expect him to finish his career with Everton.

He doesn't rely on pace, and players like Laudrup/Zidane retired at their prime.

Gylfi will age like fine wine. Even in his 40's he will still have his set pieces.

It's mad that even during the last few weeks where we've been pretty drab, not once have I actually been watching us and thought "you know who we miss, Gylfi Sigurdsson".

Yet everybody around you has been saying it. Weird huh?

The past couple of weeks is proof of his importance to the squad. Right now the team has zero excuses.

Prior to January we had a horrendous squad & XI, with no Baines/Coleman/Walcott/Tosun/Bolasie.

Right now we have all of those players back, and our only player missing is Sigurdsson.

So there are zero excuses. Either the team heavily relies on Sigurdsson or we need to get rid of half the team.

As for saying the he's better than the ox lol , the ox is twice the player this feller is


We never got a proven pl playmaker, he literally had one standout season and the majority of it was a result of his stats from set pieces he's always been average from open play.

Imagine allowing this kopite trash of a person to comment here.

Gylfi literally never had good set piece stats for Swansea barring last season. 5 set piece assists in 5 PL seasons from 2011/12 to 2015/16.

He only started taking penalties in 2015/16, and Shelvey/Ki took most free kicks from 14/15 to 15/16.

Ox literally cant do 1/4th of what Sigurdsson is capable of. Instead he has tremendous pace.

He's ALSO played a couple of times in the middle of the park here. And ALSO looked average there as well.

Where is this 'myth' that "if we played him in his RIGHT position he'd flourish" come from? This is Bilyaletdinov all over again.

How well would any Playmaker in the world perform with Rooney & Davies behind you, Niasse upfront with DCL & Mirallas as wingers? Not to mention Martina & Kenny as fullbacks.

Compared to:
Jonjo Shelvey
Pascal Gross
Manuel Lanzini
Johann Gudmundsson

The most worrying thing is if you compare those same players to GS last season then he still doesn't show up better than this collection of younger, cheaper players. One of whom is in his first year in the PL.

All of those players barring Gudmundsson average 23-48% more passes than Sigurdsson did this season & last season.

Naturally when you have almost 50% more passes per match you'll have a lot more key passes per 90 minutes.

Essentially your comparison is flawed, you should be dividing the total passes with total key passes/chances/assists. In which case Gylfi is among the best in the PL.

Why not compare Sigurdsson to those players when he averaged a similar amount of passes?

 

[Groucho]

Totally why Everton spent £45 million on him.



The beauty of Sigurdsson playing centrally is that it allows him to play any position & role he wants.

Centrally he can shoot/cross/pass on both feet, cutting inside on either foot or running down the flanks.

He can play deeper or further up the pitch, and most importantly he wont have to worry about tracking back as much.

Whenever he plays LW he seems to be in two minds, either too focused on attacking or defending.

Upfront he gets lost, with very little influence on the ball.

As a central midfielder he plays as a deep-lying playmaker, which means he has fewer opportunities to create chances.

For Iceland he usually plays in-behind the striker, but for whatever reason the manager decided to waste him as a defensive midfielder in the 2016 Euro's. He was great defensively but created far fewer chances.



Not good enough on the ball? Name one player better at passing, crossing or shooting the ball on both feet in the PL.

Iceland are a possession heavy based team, and Gylfi often makes 60-80+ passes in a single match for them.

Yet for Everton & Swansea he has averaged 25 passes per match since 2016/17? Because he isn't playing centrally.



Gylfi is slow in acceleration, fast in full sprint.

In counter attacks he offers literally everything barring the initial burst of pace needed to get past players.

Instead he will pick out passes or position himself for a cross/shot inside or outside the box.

He scored our only counter attack goal all season against Liverpool in the FA cup.

Everything you criticized him for is illegitimate or only applies to him at LW.



There is a reason why Liverpool & Tottenham bid £25 million for him in the same window we got him in.

There is a reason why Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, AC Milan & Inter Milan along with several other clubs were after him.

Gylfi received multiple £35-45 million bids outside of England, but he knows that the premier league is the best league in the world, and that Everton are only a few signings away from potentially winning trophies & getting into Champions League.

Keep in mind, Everton at their worst are currently 9th in the premier league. We've hit rock bottom, so we're only going to improve.



Gylfi can literally play anywhere in the front 3 or in midfield. Defensively he's good enough to be a PL fullback.

I don't know anybody else capable of playing so many positions.



First of all Gylfi did brilliantly at LW during the 2nd half of last season with only a LB named Martin Olsson to provide width.

Swansea didn't played with a right winger, and had a horrendously poor RB. Olsson was Swansea's only wide player.

Gylfi still managed to play brilliantly, nothing you said about him applies to Sigurdsson at LW when he had Baines or Olsson at LB instead of Martina.





KDB/Eriksen/Coutinho/Ozil/Mahrez and any other playmaker would perform terribly with DCL/Davies/Rooney/Martina/Kenny and the rest of this average squad.

We had Mirallas and Lennon playing for us this season for gods sake.



Gylfi only managed 5 set piece assists in his 5 PL seasons prior to 2016/17 where he got 8 throughout the whole campaign.

He might be a set piece expert, but I'd take his open play skillset over his set pieces any day of the week.



Williams & DCL are the only players that have scored from from a set piece this season (barring penalties)

Williams wasted Sigurdsson's set piece chances horribly while he was at Swansea. Yet he is our only player that has scored for us? Just shows how bad the rest of our team is.



He's the only player in our squad that consistently plays the ball forward. If there's a player open then he will make the pass, simple as that.



Mane is arguably the best LW'er in the PL right now, definitely better than Hazard or Sanchez on current form.

Now what do all of those players have in common? They're one footed. Mahrez is the only playmaker out of those players, and the rest are purely wingers.

There is not a chance in hell that they can score or assist goals in the same fashion Gylfi does, fast players are rarely extremely technical, and Gylfi is the perfect example of a player who purely relies on technique due to his lack of pace & strength.



I agree with Bolasie & Klaassen, but Sigurdsson was miles better than all of those players last season, and in every other PL season while he was at Swansea.

All of those players barring Mahrez play for a good team, can you even imagine how many goals or assists Gylfi would have starting for any of the Top 4? He'd be putting KDB to shame just like he did last season.



I was hoping that Everton would acknowledge how poorly Swansea utilized him on the wing last season & not make the same mistake, but alas I was wrong. On the other hand Everton at their worst are still somehow in the top half of the table while Swansea at their worst were 20th around Christmas.

I'm glad he jumped ships but this club needs to man up and play him centrally.



It's not like he has a target man to aim for. Where is our Llorente, Mawson, Van der Hoorn? We don't have one player even close to as good as them in the air.



I don't understand how he could outperform the best playmakers in the PL for Swansea & somehow not be worth £45mil? Any of the Top 4 playmakers are worth more than that, and he was better than them for years.



Gylfi can play at this level for another 8-10 years, I don't expect him to finish his career with Everton.

He doesn't rely on pace, and players like Laudrup/Zidane retired at their prime.

Gylfi will age like fine wine. Even in his 40's he will still have his set pieces.



Yet everybody around you has been saying it. Weird huh?

The past couple of weeks is proof of his importance to the squad. Right now the team has zero excuses.

Prior to January we had a horrendous squad & XI, with no Baines/Coleman/Walcott/Tosun/Bolasie.

Right now we have all of those players back, and our only player missing is Sigurdsson.

So there are zero excuses. Either the team heavily relies on Sigurdsson or we need to get rid of half the team.



Imagine allowing this kopite trash of a person to comment here.

Gylfi literally never had good set piece stats for Swansea barring last season. 5 set piece assists in 5 PL seasons from 2011/12 to 2015/16.

He only started taking penalties in 2015/16, and Shelvey/Ki took most free kicks from 14/15 to 15/16.

Ox literally cant do 1/4th of what Sigurdsson is capable of. Instead he has tremendous pace.



How well would any Playmaker in the world perform with Rooney & Davies behind you, Niasse upfront with DCL & Mirallas as wingers? Not to mention Martina & Kenny as fullbacks.



All of those players barring Gudmundsson average 23-48% more passes than Sigurdsson did this season & last season.

Naturally when you have almost 50% more passes per match you'll have a lot more key passes per 90 minutes.

Essentially your comparison is flawed, you should be dividing the total passes with total key passes/chances/assists. In which case Gylfi is among the best in the PL.

Why not compare Sigurdsson to those players when he averaged a similar amount of passes?

Hi mate.

Please this time could you not spam this thread, and also participate in other threads?

Thanks.

 

[ijjysmith]

Totally why Everton spent £45 million on him.



The beauty of Sigurdsson playing centrally is that it allows him to play any position & role he wants.

Centrally he can shoot/cross/pass on both feet, cutting inside on either foot or running down the flanks.

He can play deeper or further up the pitch, and most importantly he wont have to worry about tracking back as much.

Whenever he plays LW he seems to be in two minds, either too focused on attacking or defending.

Upfront he gets lost, with very little influence on the ball.

As a central midfielder he plays as a deep-lying playmaker, which means he has fewer opportunities to create chances.

For Iceland he usually plays in-behind the striker, but for whatever reason the manager decided to waste him as a defensive midfielder in the 2016 Euro's. He was great defensively but created far fewer chances.

You get the best of both worlds with him in-behind the striker. Yet he has less than 5 games for us there.



Not good enough on the ball? Name one player better at passing, crossing or shooting the ball on both feet in the PL.

Iceland are a possession heavy based team, and Gylfi often makes 60-80+ passes in a single match for them.

Yet for Everton & Swansea he has averaged 25 passes per match since 2016/17? Because he isn't playing centrally.



Gylfi is slow in acceleration, fast in full sprint.

In counter attacks he offers literally everything barring the initial burst of pace needed to get past players.

Instead he will pick out passes or position himself for a cross/shot inside or outside the box.

He scored our only counter attack goal all season against Liverpool in the FA cup.

Everything you criticized him for is illegitimate or only applies to him at LW.



There is a reason why Liverpool & Tottenham bid £25 million for him in the same window we got him in.

There is a reason why Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, AC Milan & Inter Milan along with several other clubs were after him.

Gylfi received multiple £35-45 million bids outside of England, but he knows that the premier league is the best league in the world, and that Everton are only a few signings away from potentially winning trophies & getting into Champions League.

Keep in mind, Everton at their worst are currently 9th in the premier league. We've hit rock bottom, so we're only going to improve.



Gylfi can literally play anywhere in the front 3 or in midfield. Defensively he's good enough to be a PL fullback.

I don't know anybody else capable of playing so many positions.



First of all Gylfi did brilliantly at LW during the 2nd half of last season with only a LB named Martin Olsson to provide width.

Swansea didn't played with a right winger, and had a horrendously poor RB. Olsson was Swansea's only wide player.

Gylfi still managed to play brilliantly, nothing you said about him applies to Sigurdsson at LW when he had Baines or Olsson at LB instead of Martina.





KDB/Eriksen/Coutinho/Ozil/Mahrez and any other playmaker would perform terribly with DCL/Davies/Rooney/Martina/Kenny and the rest of this average squad.

We had Mirallas and Lennon playing for us this season for gods sake.



Gylfi only managed 5 set piece assists in his 5 PL seasons prior to 2016/17 where he got 8 throughout the whole campaign.

He might be a set piece expert, but I'd take his open play skillset over his set pieces any day of the week.



Williams & DCL are the only players that have scored from from a set piece this season (barring penalties)

Williams wasted Sigurdsson's set piece chances horribly while he was at Swansea. Yet he is our only player that has scored for us? Just shows how bad the rest of our team is.



He's the only player in our squad that consistently plays the ball forward. If there's a player open then he will make the pass, simple as that.



Mane is arguably the best LW'er in the PL right now, definitely better than Hazard or Sanchez on current form.

Now what do all of those players have in common? They're one footed. Mahrez is the only playmaker out of those players, and the rest are purely wingers.

There is not a chance in hell that they can score or assist goals in the same fashion Gylfi does, fast players are rarely extremely technical, and Gylfi is the perfect example of a player who purely relies on technique due to his lack of pace & strength.



I agree with Bolasie & Klaassen, but Sigurdsson was miles better than all of those players last season, and in every other PL season while he was at Swansea.

All of those players barring Mahrez play for a good team, can you even imagine how many goals or assists Gylfi would have starting for any of the Top 4? He'd be putting KDB to shame just like he did last season.



I was hoping that Everton would acknowledge how poorly Swansea utilized him on the wing last season & not make the same mistake, but alas I was wrong. On the other hand Everton at their worst are still somehow in the top half of the table while Swansea at their worst were 20th around Christmas.

I'm glad he jumped ships but this club needs to man up and play him centrally.



It's not like he has a target man to aim for. Where is our Llorente, Mawson, Van der Hoorn? We don't have one player even close to as good as them in the air.



I don't understand how he could outperform the best playmakers in the PL for Swansea & somehow not be worth £45mil? Any of the Top 4 playmakers are worth more than that, and he was better than them for years.



Gylfi can play at this level for another 8-10 years, I don't expect him to finish his career with Everton.

He doesn't rely on pace, and players like Laudrup/Zidane retired at their prime.

Gylfi will age like fine wine. Even in his 40's he will still have his set pieces.



Yet everybody around you has been saying it. Weird huh?

The past couple of weeks is proof of his importance to the squad. Right now the team has zero excuses.

Prior to January we had a horrendous squad & XI, with no Baines/Coleman/Walcott/Tosun/Bolasie.

Right now we have all of those players back, and our only player missing is Sigurdsson.

So there are zero excuses. Either the team heavily relies on Sigurdsson or we need to get rid of half the team.



Imagine allowing this kopite trash of a person to comment here.

Gylfi literally never had good set piece stats for Swansea barring last season. 5 set piece assists in 5 PL seasons from 2011/12 to 2015/16.

He only started taking penalties in 2015/16, and Shelvey/Ki took most free kicks from 14/15 to 15/16.

Ox literally cant do 1/4th of what Sigurdsson is capable of. Instead he has tremendous pace.



How well would any Playmaker in the world perform with Rooney & Davies behind you, Niasse upfront with DCL & Mirallas as wingers? Not to mention Martina & Kenny as fullbacks.



All of those players barring Gudmundsson average 23-48% more passes than Sigurdsson did this season & last season.

Naturally when you have almost 50% more passes per match you'll have a lot more key passes per 90 minutes.

Essentially your comparison is flawed, you should be dividing the total passes with total key passes/chances/assists. In which case Gylfi is among the best in the PL.

Why not compare Sigurdsson to those players when he averaged a similar amount of passes?

OH MY GOD

 

[MikeH72]

That is one behemoth of a post Ricky. I don't think I'm ready to take that on just yet.

 

[Connor]

United, United, United.

 

[Walken]

Totally why Everton spent £45 million on him.



The beauty of Sigurdsson playing centrally is that it allows him to play any position & role he wants.

Centrally he can shoot/cross/pass on both feet, cutting inside on either foot or running down the flanks.

He can play deeper or further up the pitch, and most importantly he wont have to worry about tracking back as much.

Whenever he plays LW he seems to be in two minds, either too focused on attacking or defending.

Upfront he gets lost, with very little influence on the ball.

As a central midfielder he plays as a deep-lying playmaker, which means he has fewer opportunities to create chances.

For Iceland he usually plays in-behind the striker, but for whatever reason the manager decided to waste him as a defensive midfielder in the 2016 Euro's. He was great defensively but created far fewer chances.

You get the best of both worlds with him in-behind the striker. Yet he has less than 5 games for us there.



Not good enough on the ball? Name one player better at passing, crossing or shooting the ball on both feet in the PL.

Iceland are a possession heavy based team, and Gylfi often makes 60-80+ passes in a single match for them.

Yet for Everton & Swansea he has averaged 25 passes per match since 2016/17? Because he isn't playing centrally.



Gylfi is slow in acceleration, fast in full sprint.

In counter attacks he offers literally everything barring the initial burst of pace needed to get past players.

Instead he will pick out passes or position himself for a cross/shot inside or outside the box.

He scored our only counter attack goal all season against Liverpool in the FA cup.

Everything you criticized him for is illegitimate or only applies to him at LW.



There is a reason why Liverpool & Tottenham bid £25 million for him in the same window we got him in.

There is a reason why Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, AC Milan & Inter Milan along with several other clubs were after him.

Gylfi received multiple £35-45 million bids outside of England, but he knows that the premier league is the best league in the world, and that Everton are only a few signings away from potentially winning trophies & getting into Champions League.

Keep in mind, Everton at their worst are currently 9th in the premier league. We've hit rock bottom, so we're only going to improve.



Gylfi can literally play anywhere in the front 3 or in midfield. Defensively he's good enough to be a PL fullback.

I don't know anybody else capable of playing so many positions.



First of all Gylfi did brilliantly at LW during the 2nd half of last season with only a LB named Martin Olsson to provide width.

Swansea didn't played with a right winger, and had a horrendously poor RB. Olsson was Swansea's only wide player.

Gylfi still managed to play brilliantly, nothing you said about him applies to Sigurdsson at LW when he had Baines or Olsson at LB instead of Martina.





KDB/Eriksen/Coutinho/Ozil/Mahrez and any other playmaker would perform terribly with DCL/Davies/Rooney/Martina/Kenny and the rest of this average squad.

We had Mirallas and Lennon playing for us this season for gods sake.



Gylfi only managed 5 set piece assists in his 5 PL seasons prior to 2016/17 where he got 8 throughout the whole campaign.

He might be a set piece expert, but I'd take his open play skillset over his set pieces any day of the week.



Williams & DCL are the only players that have scored from from a set piece this season (barring penalties)

Williams wasted Sigurdsson's set piece chances horribly while he was at Swansea. Yet he is our only player that has scored for us? Just shows how bad the rest of our team is.



He's the only player in our squad that consistently plays the ball forward. If there's a player open then he will make the pass, simple as that.



Mane is arguably the best LW'er in the PL right now, definitely better than Hazard or Sanchez on current form.

Now what do all of those players have in common? They're one footed. Mahrez is the only playmaker out of those players, and the rest are purely wingers.

There is not a chance in hell that they can score or assist goals in the same fashion Gylfi does, fast players are rarely extremely technical, and Gylfi is the perfect example of a player who purely relies on technique due to his lack of pace & strength.



I agree with Bolasie & Klaassen, but Sigurdsson was miles better than all of those players last season, and in every other PL season while he was at Swansea.

All of those players barring Mahrez play for a good team, can you even imagine how many goals or assists Gylfi would have starting for any of the Top 4? He'd be putting KDB to shame just like he did last season.



I was hoping that Everton would acknowledge how poorly Swansea utilized him on the wing last season & not make the same mistake, but alas I was wrong. On the other hand Everton at their worst are still somehow in the top half of the table while Swansea at their worst were 20th around Christmas.

I'm glad he jumped ships but this club needs to man up and play him centrally.



It's not like he has a target man to aim for. Where is our Llorente, Mawson, Van der Hoorn? We don't have one player even close to as good as them in the air.



I don't understand how he could outperform the best playmakers in the PL for Swansea & somehow not be worth £45mil? Any of the Top 4 playmakers are worth more than that, and he was better than them for years.



Gylfi can play at this level for another 8-10 years, I don't expect him to finish his career with Everton.

He doesn't rely on pace, and players like Laudrup/Zidane retired at their prime.

Gylfi will age like fine wine. Even in his 40's he will still have his set pieces.



Yet everybody around you has been saying it. Weird huh?

The past couple of weeks is proof of his importance to the squad. Right now the team has zero excuses.

Prior to January we had a horrendous squad & XI, with no Baines/Coleman/Walcott/Tosun/Bolasie.

Right now we have all of those players back, and our only player missing is Sigurdsson.

So there are zero excuses. Either the team heavily relies on Sigurdsson or we need to get rid of half the team.



Imagine allowing this kopite trash of a person to comment here.

Gylfi literally never had good set piece stats for Swansea barring last season. 5 set piece assists in 5 PL seasons from 2011/12 to 2015/16.

He only started taking penalties in 2015/16, and Shelvey/Ki took most free kicks from 14/15 to 15/16.

Ox literally cant do 1/4th of what Sigurdsson is capable of. Instead he has tremendous pace.



How well would any Playmaker in the world perform with Rooney & Davies behind you, Niasse upfront with DCL & Mirallas as wingers? Not to mention Martina & Kenny as fullbacks.



All of those players barring Gudmundsson average 23-48% more passes than Sigurdsson did this season & last season.

Naturally when you have almost 50% more passes per match you'll have a lot more key passes per 90 minutes.

Essentially your comparison is flawed, you should be dividing the total passes with total key passes/chances/assists. In which case Gylfi is among the best in the PL.

Why not compare Sigurdsson to those players when he averaged a similar amount of passes?

Go ricky GO GO GO

 

[ilikecheese]

I'll wait for the abridged version.

 

[RickyRiders]

Hi mate.

Please this time could you not spam this thread, and also participate in other threads?

Thanks.

I have been, most recently I commented on a Seamus Coleman thread. I've also participated on Tosun's & Vlasic's thread.

Why would you care though? You're just going to ban me for posting stats/facts/video's anyway

But this thread is by far the most entertaining, even though it has multiple users spamming the thread bringing nothing to the table.

 

[sageyefc]

OH MY GOD

Think he's just give me aids with that

 

[sageyefc]

Totally why Everton spent £45 million on him.



The beauty of Sigurdsson playing centrally is that it allows him to play any position & role he wants.

Centrally he can shoot/cross/pass on both feet, cutting inside on either foot or running down the flanks.

He can play deeper or further up the pitch, and most importantly he wont have to worry about tracking back as much.

Whenever he plays LW he seems to be in two minds, either too focused on attacking or defending.

Upfront he gets lost, with very little influence on the ball.

As a central midfielder he plays as a deep-lying playmaker, which means he has fewer opportunities to create chances.

For Iceland he usually plays in-behind the striker, but for whatever reason the manager decided to waste him as a defensive midfielder in the 2016 Euro's. He was great defensively but created far fewer chances.

You get the best of both worlds with him in-behind the striker. Yet he has less than 5 games for us there.



Not good enough on the ball? Name one player better at passing, crossing or shooting the ball on both feet in the PL.

Iceland are a possession heavy based team, and Gylfi often makes 60-80+ passes in a single match for them.

Yet for Everton & Swansea he has averaged 25 passes per match since 2016/17? Because he isn't playing centrally.



Gylfi is slow in acceleration, fast in full sprint.

In counter attacks he offers literally everything barring the initial burst of pace needed to get past players.

Instead he will pick out passes or position himself for a cross/shot inside or outside the box.

He scored our only counter attack goal all season against Liverpool in the FA cup.

Everything you criticized him for is illegitimate or only applies to him at LW.



There is a reason why Liverpool & Tottenham bid £25 million for him in the same window we got him in.

There is a reason why Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, AC Milan & Inter Milan along with several other clubs were after him.

Gylfi received multiple £35-45 million bids outside of England, but he knows that the premier league is the best league in the world, and that Everton are only a few signings away from potentially winning trophies & getting into Champions League.

Keep in mind, Everton at their worst are currently 9th in the premier league. We've hit rock bottom, so we're only going to improve.



Gylfi can literally play anywhere in the front 3 or in midfield. Defensively he's good enough to be a PL fullback.

I don't know anybody else capable of playing so many positions.



First of all Gylfi did brilliantly at LW during the 2nd half of last season with only a LB named Martin Olsson to provide width.

Swansea didn't played with a right winger, and had a horrendously poor RB. Olsson was Swansea's only wide player.

Gylfi still managed to play brilliantly, nothing you said about him applies to Sigurdsson at LW when he had Baines or Olsson at LB instead of Martina.





KDB/Eriksen/Coutinho/Ozil/Mahrez and any other playmaker would perform terribly with DCL/Davies/Rooney/Martina/Kenny and the rest of this average squad.

We had Mirallas and Lennon playing for us this season for gods sake.



Gylfi only managed 5 set piece assists in his 5 PL seasons prior to 2016/17 where he got 8 throughout the whole campaign.

He might be a set piece expert, but I'd take his open play skillset over his set pieces any day of the week.



Williams & DCL are the only players that have scored from from a set piece this season (barring penalties)

Williams wasted Sigurdsson's set piece chances horribly while he was at Swansea. Yet he is our only player that has scored for us? Just shows how bad the rest of our team is.



He's the only player in our squad that consistently plays the ball forward. If there's a player open then he will make the pass, simple as that.



Mane is arguably the best LW'er in the PL right now, definitely better than Hazard or Sanchez on current form.

Now what do all of those players have in common? They're one footed. Mahrez is the only playmaker out of those players, and the rest are purely wingers.

There is not a chance in hell that they can score or assist goals in the same fashion Gylfi does, fast players are rarely extremely technical, and Gylfi is the perfect example of a player who purely relies on technique due to his lack of pace & strength.



I agree with Bolasie & Klaassen, but Sigurdsson was miles better than all of those players last season, and in every other PL season while he was at Swansea.

All of those players barring Mahrez play for a good team, can you even imagine how many goals or assists Gylfi would have starting for any of the Top 4? He'd be putting KDB to shame just like he did last season.



I was hoping that Everton would acknowledge how poorly Swansea utilized him on the wing last season & not make the same mistake, but alas I was wrong. On the other hand Everton at their worst are still somehow in the top half of the table while Swansea at their worst were 20th around Christmas.

I'm glad he jumped ships but this club needs to man up and play him centrally.



It's not like he has a target man to aim for. Where is our Llorente, Mawson, Van der Hoorn? We don't have one player even close to as good as them in the air.



I don't understand how he could outperform the best playmakers in the PL for Swansea & somehow not be worth £45mil? Any of the Top 4 playmakers are worth more than that, and he was better than them for years.



Gylfi can play at this level for another 8-10 years, I don't expect him to finish his career with Everton.

He doesn't rely on pace, and players like Laudrup/Zidane retired at their prime.

Gylfi will age like fine wine. Even in his 40's he will still have his set pieces.



Yet everybody around you has been saying it. Weird huh?

The past couple of weeks is proof of his importance to the squad. Right now the team has zero excuses.

Prior to January we had a horrendous squad & XI, with no Baines/Coleman/Walcott/Tosun/Bolasie.

Right now we have all of those players back, and our only player missing is Sigurdsson.

So there are zero excuses. Either the team heavily relies on Sigurdsson or we need to get rid of half the team.



Imagine allowing this kopite trash of a person to comment here.

Gylfi literally never had good set piece stats for Swansea barring last season. 5 set piece assists in 5 PL seasons from 2011/12 to 2015/16.

He only started taking penalties in 2015/16, and Shelvey/Ki took most free kicks from 14/15 to 15/16.

Ox literally cant do 1/4th of what Sigurdsson is capable of. Instead he has tremendous pace.



How well would any Playmaker in the world perform with Rooney & Davies behind you, Niasse upfront with DCL & Mirallas as wingers? Not to mention Martina & Kenny as fullbacks.



All of those players barring Gudmundsson average 23-48% more passes than Sigurdsson did this season & last season.

Naturally when you have almost 50% more passes per match you'll have a lot more key passes per 90 minutes.

Essentially your comparison is flawed, you should be dividing the total passes with total key passes/chances/assists. In which case Gylfi is among the best in the PL.

Why not compare Sigurdsson to those players when he averaged a similar amount of passes?

So what you're saying is that you're a fan of sigurdson ??

 

[Deulofeumygod]

You know what - he hasn't.

Not many to choose from though.

I will rephrase. Best of the worst?

 

[orly]

Totally why Everton spent £45 million on him.



The beauty of Sigurdsson playing centrally is that it allows him to play any position & role he wants.

Centrally he can shoot/cross/pass on both feet, cutting inside on either foot or running down the flanks.

He can play deeper or further up the pitch, and most importantly he wont have to worry about tracking back as much.

Whenever he plays LW he seems to be in two minds, either too focused on attacking or defending.

Upfront he gets lost, with very little influence on the ball.

As a central midfielder he plays as a deep-lying playmaker, which means he has fewer opportunities to create chances.

For Iceland he usually plays in-behind the striker, but for whatever reason the manager decided to waste him as a defensive midfielder in the 2016 Euro's. He was great defensively but created far fewer chances.

You get the best of both worlds with him in-behind the striker. Yet he has less than 5 games for us there.



Not good enough on the ball? Name one player better at passing, crossing or shooting the ball on both feet in the PL.

Iceland are a possession heavy based team, and Gylfi often makes 60-80+ passes in a single match for them.

Yet for Everton & Swansea he has averaged 25 passes per match since 2016/17? Because he isn't playing centrally.



Gylfi is slow in acceleration, fast in full sprint.

In counter attacks he offers literally everything barring the initial burst of pace needed to get past players.

Instead he will pick out passes or position himself for a cross/shot inside or outside the box.

He scored our only counter attack goal all season against Liverpool in the FA cup.

Everything you criticized him for is illegitimate or only applies to him at LW.



There is a reason why Liverpool & Tottenham bid £25 million for him in the same window we got him in.

There is a reason why Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, AC Milan & Inter Milan along with several other clubs were after him.

Gylfi received multiple £35-45 million bids outside of England, but he knows that the premier league is the best league in the world, and that Everton are only a few signings away from potentially winning trophies & getting into Champions League.

Keep in mind, Everton at their worst are currently 9th in the premier league. We've hit rock bottom, so we're only going to improve.



Gylfi can literally play anywhere in the front 3 or in midfield. Defensively he's good enough to be a PL fullback.

I don't know anybody else capable of playing so many positions.



First of all Gylfi did brilliantly at LW during the 2nd half of last season with only a LB named Martin Olsson to provide width.

Swansea didn't played with a right winger, and had a horrendously poor RB. Olsson was Swansea's only wide player.

Gylfi still managed to play brilliantly, nothing you said about him applies to Sigurdsson at LW when he had Baines or Olsson at LB instead of Martina.





KDB/Eriksen/Coutinho/Ozil/Mahrez and any other playmaker would perform terribly with DCL/Davies/Rooney/Martina/Kenny and the rest of this average squad.

We had Mirallas and Lennon playing for us this season for gods sake.



Gylfi only managed 5 set piece assists in his 5 PL seasons prior to 2016/17 where he got 8 throughout the whole campaign.

He might be a set piece expert, but I'd take his open play skillset over his set pieces any day of the week.



Williams & DCL are the only players that have scored from from a set piece this season (barring penalties)

Williams wasted Sigurdsson's set piece chances horribly while he was at Swansea. Yet he is our only player that has scored for us? Just shows how bad the rest of our team is.



He's the only player in our squad that consistently plays the ball forward. If there's a player open then he will make the pass, simple as that.



Mane is arguably the best LW'er in the PL right now, definitely better than Hazard or Sanchez on current form.

Now what do all of those players have in common? They're one footed. Mahrez is the only playmaker out of those players, and the rest are purely wingers.

There is not a chance in hell that they can score or assist goals in the same fashion Gylfi does, fast players are rarely extremely technical, and Gylfi is the perfect example of a player who purely relies on technique due to his lack of pace & strength.



I agree with Bolasie & Klaassen, but Sigurdsson was miles better than all of those players last season, and in every other PL season while he was at Swansea.

All of those players barring Mahrez play for a good team, can you even imagine how many goals or assists Gylfi would have starting for any of the Top 4? He'd be putting KDB to shame just like he did last season.



I was hoping that Everton would acknowledge how poorly Swansea utilized him on the wing last season & not make the same mistake, but alas I was wrong. On the other hand Everton at their worst are still somehow in the top half of the table while Swansea at their worst were 20th around Christmas.

I'm glad he jumped ships but this club needs to man up and play him centrally.



It's not like he has a target man to aim for. Where is our Llorente, Mawson, Van der Hoorn? We don't have one player even close to as good as them in the air.



I don't understand how he could outperform the best playmakers in the PL for Swansea & somehow not be worth £45mil? Any of the Top 4 playmakers are worth more than that, and he was better than them for years.



Gylfi can play at this level for another 8-10 years, I don't expect him to finish his career with Everton.

He doesn't rely on pace, and players like Laudrup/Zidane retired at their prime.

Gylfi will age like fine wine. Even in his 40's he will still have his set pieces.



Yet everybody around you has been saying it. Weird huh?

The past couple of weeks is proof of his importance to the squad. Right now the team has zero excuses.

Prior to January we had a horrendous squad & XI, with no Baines/Coleman/Walcott/Tosun/Bolasie.

Right now we have all of those players back, and our only player missing is Sigurdsson.

So there are zero excuses. Either the team heavily relies on Sigurdsson or we need to get rid of half the team.



Imagine allowing this kopite trash of a person to comment here.

Gylfi literally never had good set piece stats for Swansea barring last season. 5 set piece assists in 5 PL seasons from 2011/12 to 2015/16.

He only started taking penalties in 2015/16, and Shelvey/Ki took most free kicks from 14/15 to 15/16.

Ox literally cant do 1/4th of what Sigurdsson is capable of. Instead he has tremendous pace.



How well would any Playmaker in the world perform with Rooney & Davies behind you, Niasse upfront with DCL & Mirallas as wingers? Not to mention Martina & Kenny as fullbacks.



All of those players barring Gudmundsson average 23-48% more passes than Sigurdsson did this season & last season.

Naturally when you have almost 50% more passes per match you'll have a lot more key passes per 90 minutes.

Essentially your comparison is flawed, you should be dividing the total passes with total key passes/chances/assists. In which case Gylfi is among the best in the PL.

Why not compare Sigurdsson to those players when he averaged a similar amount of passes?

Apparently there is an Everton survey out tonight @RickyRiders .

One question is 'how has God Awful Gylfi played this season'?

Lots of 1 / 10 answers.

Make of THAT what you will.