2017/18 Gylfi Sigurdsson

[BlueToff]

Says it all when the best you can come up with is 'he runs dead hard'

That's not the best anyone can come up with though. It's just a huge bonus to have a player who is willing to work hard and also has the quality he does.

He finished the season with our most chances created and he was injured for the final two months.

 

[BlueToff]

Seems everyone loves him apart from a few “cheery” evertonians.

Everton that.

They're the same ones that slagged him last summer.

He was crap - and not fit - for his first few weeks. Totally get slating him for that.

From December through to March he improved and was very consistent.

He's the least of our worries, really.

 

[sageyefc]

That's not the best anyone can come up with though. It's just a huge bonus to have a player who is willing to work hard and also has the quality he does.

He finished the season with our most chances created and he was injured for the final two months.

Again that is no impressive feat when the competition is the likes of bolasie.




And even then bambi Lewin still got more assists than him

 

[nsno-chris]

But he's proved for Iceland the exact opposite Chris lad, literally three days ago.

He's a good player. But he shouldn't be used as the creative fulcrum from deep.

Get the ball into him in and around the area - whether central or wide - and he'll create chances.

We didn't do that nearly enough last year, and that was at times down to Gylfi as well (especially the first 10 games where he wasn't match fit).

We also never had runners in behind. Everything was in front of the opposition defence until Walcott came in.

By running around and closing down play. I’d expect that from Mark Pembridge

 

[Thomasc]

Again that is no impressive feat when the competition is the likes of bolasie.




And even then bambi Lewin still got more assists than him

So you will make a counter argument against any positive facts about him, even to the point of using Bolasie as a barometer.

Dead normal that

 

[sageyefc]

So you will make a counter argument against any positive facts about him, even to the point of using Bolasie as a barometer.

Dead normal that

Saying he created the most chances for us is like saying Seb Larson used to create the most chances for Sunderland. Would you want to spend 45 mil on Seb Larson and have him as your main man ?????

 

[Zatara]

I'm not sure Zat. I'm pretty torn on the whole midfield at the moment.

I really do think we need a big, physical presence to come in, and primarily that player to be the '8' in Silva's 4-3-3. However, I also think we need someone who can put their foot on the ball from deep and knock it about.

It looks like Schneiderlin is going to be given the chance to play that role which is fine, but if he's not up to scratch / can't be bothered, then we're in the same position as we were this year. It's why I was an advocate of Carvalho. He's a player which can cover both the deep-lying playmaker and big physical presence that we need.

If Schneiderlin can indeed cut it, then I think the priority can be shifted to a playmaker in the Ziyech/Ozyakup mode who can get on the ball and carry it forward or pick a pass. While he wouldn't be my first option, Wilshere could even be an option for this role.

So in that system, I think they could be the '8' and Gylfi the '10', but both kind of interchanging and having the freedom to roam.

Gueye also has to be factored in. I think he's a better option than Schneiderlin for the 'screener' in front of the defence as in that role he is excellent, but he lacks the passing range or skill on the ball to then take us forward, so again we'd need a player to drop deep and pick the ball up from the defence.

I don't think Gylfi would be best used there, and we don't have that type of player (if Rooney goes definitely), so we'd need to bring someone in. Issue then is if that's somebody like a Ziyech or Ozyakup, we're left with having no height or power in a position where it's very easily to get overrun in the Premier League.

My ideal signing would be Doucoure.

While he isn't brilliant on the ball, he's better than Gana and would be a really good folly for whoever plays the screening role. He's able to drive forward at pace and that's when we could get Gylfi on the ball in higher positions, and it would also add that power/physicality we lack in the middle.

Zakaria could be another option that I think would be getable, but he is more like a Carvalho in terms of style than a traditional box-to-box player like Doucoure when I've seen him play.

I see these types;

A
DM Gana
DM Playmaker
AM Sigurdsson

B
DM New signing (top all rounder)
CM Sigurdsson
AM Vlasic/Dowell/Lookman

C
DM New signing (top all rounder
CM New Signing/Sigurdsson
AM Sigurdsson/New Player

Ironically our top DM is Gana who needs a playmaker next to him or else we cant build from that area which is crucial...

 

[Thomasc]

Saying he created the most chances for us is like saying Seb Larson used to create the most chances for Sunderland. Would you want to spend 45 mil on Seb Larson and have him as your main man ?????

It’s a pointless debate with you @nsno-chris i think. You have made your mind up and no matter how many positive facts are presented to you it just gets responded to with derision.

Whilst at the same time, your fanboy crush Ross’s career is folding faster than superman on laundry day.

Another daft barometer set there. He’s better than Seb Larsson who nobody would pay 45m for.

 

[sageyefc]

It’s a pointless debate with you @nsno-chris i think. You have made your mind up and no matter how many positive facts are presented to you it just gets responded to with derision.

Whilst at the same time, your fanboy crush Ross’s career is folding faster than superman on laundry day.

Another daft barometer set there. He’s better than Seb Larsson who nobody would pay 45m for.

Step into the Barkley thread you'll see I'm no fanboy, I despise the rat, but even I can see statistically and using my eyes he offered more to us than what siggyfraud does

 

[Groucho]

Wasn’t aware he had so many detractors.

I’m all for him.

 

[BlueToff]

By running around and closing down play. I’d expect that from Mark Pembridge

he did more than that though

 

[BlueToff]

I see these types;

A
DM Gana
DM Playmaker
AM Sigurdsson

B
DM New signing (top all rounder)
CM Sigurdsson
AM Vlasic/Dowell/Lookman

C
DM New signing (top all rounder
CM New Signing/Sigurdsson
AM Sigurdsson/New Player

Ironically our top DM is Gana who needs a playmaker next to him or else we cant build from that area which is crucial...

I agree, but then Gana next to a playmaker also lacks any height so our midfield could easily be dwarfed.

 

[Thomasc]

Step into the Barkley thread you'll see I'm no fanboy, I despise the rat, but even I can see statistically and using my eyes he offered more to us than what siggyfraud does

This is exactly what I mean though. You are using the whole of Barkley Everton career against Gylfi’s 33 appearances for Everton.

Despite him coming into a side devoid of confidence and in severe turmoil, despite him missing pre season and despite him missing the last two months.

Yet he still had the same goal return that Barkley did in the previous season so he at least matched that and in less games.

 

[sageyefc]

This is exactly what I mean though. You are using the whole of Barkley Everton career against Gylfi’s 33 appearances for Everton.

Despite him coming into a side devoid of confidence and in severe turmoil, despite him missing pre season and despite him missing the last two months.

Yet he still had the same goal return that Barkley did in the previous season so he at least matched that and in less games.

No I'm using it against siggy at Swansea when he was at his best, even then he was extremely average in terms of creativity from open play

 

[Frang]

Step into the Barkley thread you'll see I'm no fanboy, I despise the rat, but even I can see statistically and using my eyes he offered more to us than what siggyfraud does

I like what you say normally mush.

but Gylfi I a class act, esp when played and used in the correct way.