2024/25 Harrison Armstrong

[Eggs]

No, you are. Don’t try and change it now.

Amokachi???

…Amokach, ffs Eggs. I meant Anachibe . Add Dunne & Ball to that list.

I am old, Nymz.

 

[ElGato]

Yes a lot of your last paragraph is true of the player Ross became, if only he’d had that football brain when he was younger and fitter!

And laid off the booze once he got down to London

Think the alcohol destroyed his joints and corroded whatever brain cells he had left

 

[Nymzee]

…Amokach, ffs Eggs. I meant Anochibe . Add Dunne & Ball to that list.

I am old, Nymz.

Question:

How many Everton academy players that went out on loan and didn’t make it here, do you think would have made it if they’d not gone on loan?

 

[Eggs]

Question:

How many Everton academy players that went out on loan and didn’t make it here, do you think would have made it if they’d not gone on loan?

…..generally no but there might be exceptions. Robinson, Mills, Galloway in particular went backwards.

It’s exactly why I think it’s a bad sign for them when they do go on loan. Our best ones we tend to keep here, obviously the couple of exceptions we’ve mentioned (Osman, Barkley & Gordon).

Very few of our Academy players go on loan and then play 50 first team games. That might change if we become mega-successful, of course but even when I was growing up our best youngsters came directly into the first team fold (Harvey, Royle, Hurst, Whittle, Husband etc although I’m not sure loans were a thing back then).

 

[Nymzee]

…..generally no but there might be exceptions. It’s exactly why I think it’s a bad sign for them when they do go on loan. Our best ones we tend to keep here, obviously the couple of exceptions we’ve mentioned (Osman, Barkley & Gordon).

Very few of our Academy players go on loan and then play 50 first team games. That might change if we become mega-successful, of course but even when I was growing up our best youngsters came directly into the first team fold (Harvey, Royle, Hurst, Whittle, Husband etc although I’m not sure loans were a thing back then).

So loans aren't the problem then are they? The problem has been the quality of academy players.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Lukaku is surely a no, been a laughing stock wherever he's gone, league title or no league title.

John Stones I'll add to the (very small) list

Bobby Jones, Alan Ball, Keown, Eric Dier, Anthony Robinson, Onana has done ok, Gordon.

 

[Eggs]

So loans aren't the problem then are they? The problem has been the quality of academy players.

…as I say, I’m not against loans per se but our best youngsters tend to come directly into the first team.

 

[ElGato]

Bobby Jones, Alan Ball, Keown, Eric Dier, Anthony Robinson, Onana has done ok, Gordon.

My tongue was firmly in cheek.

There is obviously plenty

However I'm not counting Dier or Robinson due to lack of first team minutes

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

…as I say, I’m not against loans per se but our best youngsters tend to come directly into the first team.

But they come directly into the first team because they are our best young players, they don't magically become our best young players because they haven't been sent on loan. Harry Kane and Beckham both went on loan.

 

[Eggs]

But they come directly into the first team because they are our best young players, they don't magically become our best young players because they haven't been sent on loan. Harry Kane and Beckham both went on loan.

…sorry Kev, you’ve lost me a bit there

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

…sorry Kev, you’ve lost me a bit there

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

 

[bluestevon]

…..generally no but there might be exceptions. Robinson, Mills, Galloway in particular went backwards.

It’s exactly why I think it’s a bad sign for them when they do go on loan. Our best ones we tend to keep here, obviously the couple of exceptions we’ve mentioned (Osman, Barkley & Gordon).

Very few of our Academy players go on loan and then play 50 first team games. That might change if we become mega-successful, of course but even when I was growing up our best youngsters came directly into the first team fold (Harvey, Royle, Hurst, Whittle, Husband etc although I’m not sure loans were a thing back then).

Barkley had a terrible loan which he never should have gone on too, think from memory it was Sheff United under Warnock....

 

[jerseytoffee]

Barkley had a terrible loan which he never should have gone on too, think from memory it was Sheff United under Warnock....

That was Leeds, he had a good loan with Sheff Wednesday though

 

[bluestevon]

That was Leeds, he had a good loan with Sheff Wednesday though

Yeah just remember it was under Warnock who hardly played him and out of position when he did get games

 

[Joey66]

Question:

How many Everton academy players that went out on loan and didn’t make it here, do you think would have made it if they’d not gone on loan?

After getting the crap kicked out of them in lower leagues ? Who knows as they never even made the bench, but two goalkeepers can sit on our bench ,,,,,, .....