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Henry Onyekuru

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I think its different reasons really.

IMO, Lookman will be wanting away, no game time at all this season, be very surprised if he stuck around. Still not convinced we will get a permit for Henry fella, think if somebody offers us some serious dough he will bail.

But yeah, its hard to say who would offer us more.
We might be looking back at the old permit system with glee once Brexit is done but I have no clue how that works. How did Richarlison get his at Watford for example? Hopefully a few AFCON games does it for Henry.
 
I'd be disappointed if we sold Henry or Lookman but Id really be lost if we sold both to replace them with one player who is the same age and same level of question mark. What's the point of buying young talent if we just throw it out without using it? While we need to make real cash if we sell we also could just not sell and try to develop even a little bit.
I agree I believe in youth, however we also need productivity from the bench and in the team. But in Lookman's case we've given him two and a half seasons and for whatever reason it isn't working I would sell for twenty million. Henry needs a go though, whether we ever get a wp who knows.
 
I agree I believe in youth, however we also need productivity from the bench and in the team. But in Lookman's case we've given him two and a half seasons and for whatever reason it isn't working I would sell for twenty million. Henry needs a go though, whether we ever get a wp who knows.
Yeah I'm coming around to the idea that Lookman won't work here. I still believe in him and think we will regret it but that's what I'm at. And as much as I don't think Lookman ever got a fair shot Henry hasnt had one period. We bought him to try him so let's do it.
 
Which is kind of my point. Why sell two player for one at the same price when we have no real idea which is actually the best. Anyone who says they know which of Neres, Onyekuru and Lookman has the best PL career is guessing really.
Managers, coaches and scouts are paid to make those ‘guesses’ though.

It’s a bizarre line of argument to be honest, seeing as it could be applied to literally any player anywhere in the world. How do we know this kid playing for Alloa Athletic isn’t better than lookman? We don’t, so let’s buy him, give him 50 consecutive games and see shall we?
 
Managers, coaches and scouts are paid to make those ‘guesses’ though.

It’s a bizarre line of argument to be honest, seeing as it could be applied to literally any player anywhere in the world. How do we know this kid playing for Alloa Athletic isn’t better than lookman? We don’t, so let’s buy him, give him 50 consecutive games and see shall we?
If you can't see the difference between guessing if two u21 internationals one playing fairly well in Turkey and the other in the Netherlands is going to have a better career and choosing between them and someone from whatever it is you made up there that's on you.

Also Lookman is at worst championship level and wasn't playing for a real club until he was 16. Jamie Vardy played non league well into his 20s. I'm not sure why there is this perception that the pros are always right in their assessments of players. They really are making educated guesses.
 

If you can't see the difference between guessing if two u21 internationals one playing fairly well in Turkey and the other in the Netherlands is going to have a better career and choosing between them and someone from whatever it is you made up there that's on you.

Also Lookman is at worst championship level and wasn't playing for a real club until he was 16. Jamie Vardy played non league well into his 20s. I'm not sure why there is this perception that the pros are always right in their assessments of players. They really are making educated guesses.
You've literally just contradicted yourself in just 2 paragraphs mate.

On one hand you're saying I'm stupid for suggesting that someone in the Scottish league (yes Alloa Athletic are a real team, not 'made up') might be as good as someone in the Dutch or Turkish League, but then you go on to say that players aren't always spotted early and there could be quality players anywhere. Which argument do you want to make mate, it would be helpful if you picked one?
 
You've literally just contradicted yourself in just 2 paragraphs mate.

On one hand you're saying I'm stupid for suggesting that someone in the Scottish league (yes Alloa Athletic are a real team, not 'made up') might be as good as someone in the Dutch or Turkish League, but then you go on to say that players aren't always spotted early and there could be quality players anywhere. Which argument do you want to make mate, it would be helpful if you picked one?
My point is that acting like every player everywhere should be given a chance is silly but it is also hard to find players so acting like selling the ones we have because we can sign better ones doesn't have to work. I'm advocating for keeping our money and trying the talented players we have rather than making another guess. We haven't found out for sure if we are right about these players yet.
 
reports say everton and galatasaray agreed for a 1 year loan. onyekuru wants to stay in turkey for one more year too.

he will play in CL
 
One of the top goal scorers in the world at 21 is it? If we let anyone mug us with 40 million I'm done with brands.
 

....another year his contract runs down, another year closer to leaving for free on a Bosman. Makes no sense to me.
everton is happy with his improvement and they want player to get more experienced playing in high level CL football
 

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