Hilary Benn Sacked From The Shadow Cabinet - wider political debate

[Joey66]

You're using an Andrew Neil quote as fact to score a point against an organisation you can't abide by nor understand?

You really are some intelligent political heavyweight aren't you?

Is it on the front page of the Telegraph, Mail or Times? Because I'm sure if it was the case it would be as well as trumpeted across Sky and the BBC....

Andrew Neil is a we renowned fair knowable polictical fair polictical commentator, he is the heavyweight what said something you denied calling it drivel I post fact you say it's drivel!
Channel 4 went undercover into Momentum TBF to Andrew Neil he interviewed momentum fairly on controversial things like the dispatches programme!
Look just seen Corbyn headlines on migration just sending voters to UKIP IMO
You have to have guile to lead a party Corbyn is probably too nice in his own principles, but never a leader just there to be manipulated IMO!

 

[Toffeelover]

And Progress and its affiliates, have you looked them up and their ambitions and intentiond? Or is it a one way street?

We all have views which differ by varying degrees. Although I disagree, I respects yours, Tsubaki's and others.

 

[magicjuan]

Andrew Neil is a we renowned fair knowable polictical fair polictical commentator, he is the heavyweight what said something you denied calling it drivel I post fact you say it's drivel!
Channel 4 went undercover into Momentum TBF to Andrew Neil he interviewed momentum fairly on controversial things like the dispatches programme!
Look just seen Corbyn headlines on migration just sending voters to UKIP IMO
You have to have guile to lead a party Corbyn is probably too nice in his own principles, but never a leader just there to be manipulated IMO!

To be honest to you, I think I've done you a disservice, you are obviously on top of everything. Good luck.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

Has Corbyn even mentioned those seven rather important letters yet.....UKIP and the SNP? No acknowledgement that they even exist never mind how to recover the millions of lost votes to them.

 

[joey_macmo]

Yes Momentum backing Trunp according to the daily politics today along with Farage!

It was on the daily politics mate watch on I player today!
Not drivel ok!
That's what was reported by Andrew Neil
BBC news now UKIP have a larger support in Oldham in Lancashire a Once Labour heartland no sign of Labour winning it back under Corbyn!
I player that too!

Unless I misheard it I player it then?

I am sure Andrew Neil stated even momentum down the road want Trump to win !
After interviewing Farage who was in the EU on a link interview!

Thought he said that as well

Yes but it's drivel according to @magicjuan - Momentums power to he people citizen smith

When it's fact on TVs it's not an opinion @edge thought Andrew Neil stated Momentum wanted Trump to win!

Andrew Neil is a we renowned fair knowable polictical fair polictical commentator, he is the heavyweight what said something you denied calling it drivel I post fact you say it's drivel!
Channel 4 went undercover into Momentum TBF to Andrew Neil he interviewed momentum fairly on controversial things like the dispatches programme!
Look just seen Corbyn headlines on migration just sending voters to UKIP IMO
You have to have guile to lead a party Corbyn is probably too nice in his own principles, but never a leader just there to be manipulated IMO!

Absolutely depressing that you think he was being serious, explains a lot though.

 

[Toffeelover]

Has Corbyn even mentioned those seven rather important letters yet.....UKIP and the SNP? No acknowledgement that they even exist never mind how to recover the millions of lost votes to them.

I think as matters currently stand north of the border is lost for the foreseeable future.

 

[Toffeelover]

Yes shouted down by some women soon shut her up - Corbyn the only one not clapping him on the highlights I seen on the BBC news not great leadership just shook his hands while all the panel applauded his speech!???

I noticed that as well. The hansdshake was some what luke warm. Des JC see TW as a rival?

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

The pro-Palestinian position is one that has to be handled very carefully. I do believe that you can be anti- Israeli without being anti-Semitic. However it fits a certain agenda to link the two.

Thats perfectly true, unfotunately the Labour party contains a large and growing number of members who dont share your views and are unable to separate one from the other.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

I think as matters currently stand north of the border is lost for the foreseeable future.

On the same score, you can write-off southern and eastern England then.

 

[joey_macmo]

K

I think as matters currently stand north of the border is lost for the foreseeable future.

Didn't labour win the most recent By-election in Scotland?

Edit: Apologies it was a council election I was looking at

 

[Toffeelover]

On the same score, you can write-off southern and eastern England then.

Not the same in my book, up in Whiskey land Labour is up against a huge nationalist party hence the name. As for what Joey_macmo said a by-election is a long way from a GE when it comes down to in fighting. Was that by election already Labour?

 

[joey_macmo]

Thats perfectly true, unfotunately the Labour party contains a large and growing number of members who dont share your views and are unable to separate one from the other.

I agree that there is a section of Labour supporters who can't separate one from the other.

There are also defenders of Isreal who can't separate one from the other in the same way.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I agree that there is a section of Labour supporters who can't separate one from the other.

There are also defenders of Isreal who can't separate one from the other in the same way.

Again that's ture but generally speaking those type of people tend to be either Jewish or have Jewish friends and more often then not only do so because of the wall venom they encounter when they express a diffrent point of view on the Isreal question. I simply find it quite alarming that such idiotic and dangrous people have infiltrated the party and continue to poison it against long standing members simply because they are Jewish. Somthing needs to be done againt these members and hangers on asap.

 

[joey_macmo]

Again that's ture but generally speaking those type of people tend to be either Jewish or have Jewish friends and more often then not only do so because of the wall venom they encounter when they express a diffrent point of view on the Isreal question. I simply find it quite alarming that such idiotic people have infiltrated the Labour Party and believe somthing needs to be done about them asap.

One doesn't justify the other in either case.

 

[Moomin]

Andrew Neil is a we renowned fair knowable polictical fair polictical commentator, he is the heavyweight what said something you denied calling it drivel I post fact you say it's drivel!
Channel 4 went undercover into Momentum TBF to Andrew Neil he interviewed momentum fairly on controversial things like the dispatches programme!
Look just seen Corbyn headlines on migration just sending voters to UKIP IMO
You have to have guile to lead a party Corbyn is probably too nice in his own principles, but never a leader just there to be manipulated IMO!

If he could be manipulated he would have stood down ages ago.

I quite like his stance of not backing down to the PLP and the Media. The papers have threw every bit of dirt possible at him and gone for him over stupid minor things but he doesn't back down.

He doesn't play by the establishment rules, so they attack him at every opportunity.