Horse Racing

[ClausThomsen]

This is massive to the economy of the area and these horses well looked after don't see anyone moaning at other racecourses .. enjoy your joint of beef tomorrow...

Sending 40 horses over a 6ft fence with a whip wielding rider on their back in a crowded arguably probably isn't a necessity. There are ways of having horses race that don't involve maximising opportunities to break their legs just as there are ways of rearing animals for food that don't involve persistent and systemic inhumane treatment.

I would guarantee you them protesters were wearing make up made from animal products, cotton clothing made from sheep’s wool, shoes and belts made from cow’s leather. They don’t give a toss about animals, why weren’t they protesting at Cheltenham last month or the Irish National last week or Crufts or any other animal led sporting events?

Protests are about maximising visibility. None of those other events have a fraction of the exposure of the Grand National - In the words of it's proponents "the most famous steeplechase in the world". Quite a few of those protestors have no issue with horse racing as a sport - more the unnecessarily risky and brutal forms of the sport.

The elephant in the room is that most of said horses, which are in the mainstay well (WELL) looked after, wouldn't be born if horse racing was removed.

Those alive would end up as PVA because keeping a horse is a costly business.

Plenty end up as PVA 'cos they don't run as well as the well looked after horses you mention. Horse breeding is a ruthless business with stallions often treated as sperm producing machines and mares being kept in a constant cycle of reproduction akin to the worst factory farms. Not being born is completely irrelevant...something or someone that has never existed isn't benefitting or suffering from it.

 

[TommyDavo]

…yep, I think one horse lost his life in the big race which is one too many. I agree, it’s dreadful to see them falling like they did today. Sadly, the problems are caused by loose horses who carry on running and jumping without their jockey because that’s what they do.

The focus is always on Aintree who have modified the fences so the risk is nowhere near what it used to be. There will be nobody complaining at Bangor on Dee on a Monday or Exeter on a Wednesday.

The protestors are ignorant.

You might as well talk to the wall mate.

 

[Leylo]

We've got the greatest horse race in our city people having a pop don't hear much criticism of Cheltenham and so forth, easy target.. leave aintree alone ..

 

[Leylo]

Sending 40 horses over a 6ft fence with a whip wielding rider on their back in a crowded arguably probably isn't a necessity. There are ways of having horses race that don't involve maximising opportunities to break their legs just as there are ways of rearing animals for food that don't involve persistent and systemic inhumane treatment.

Protests are about maximising visibility. None of those other events have a fraction of the exposure of the Grand National - In the words of it's proponents "the most famous steeplechase in the world". Quite a few of those protestors have no issue with horse racing as a sport - more the unnecessarily risky and brutal forms of the sport.

Plenty end up as PVA 'cos they don't run as well as the well looked after horses you mention. Horse breeding is a ruthless business with stallions often treated as sperm producing machines and mares being kept in a constant cycle of reproduction akin to the worst factory farms. Not being born is completely irrelevant...something or someone that has never existed isn't benefitting or suffering from it.

Talking through your backside I've owned a couple of race horses with my mates , never got any injuries racing but one did running around in a field we had to retire it got passed on to a family who had children were it was well looked after ...you have a big opinion with sketchy facts

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

cotton clothing made from sheep’s wool

 

[neil999]

Reminds me of the fox hunting lot... 'they don't understand the countryside blah blah'

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Reminds me of the fox hunting lot... 'they don't understand the countryside blah blah'

There's probably people in this thread who love punting on the horses who were in the thread banning gambling sponsorship on shirts and clapping it.

 

[Connor mcloud]

Won. Had it at 10-1. 2 pound ew. Just covered my day after doing missus and kids horses. Everton, Spurs and Dundee let me down on footy bet.

I had the same bet for one of the grandchildren, how much would you get back for that

 

[ClausThomsen]

Talking through your backside I've owned a couple of race horses with my mates , never got any injuries racing but one did running around in a field we had to retire it got passed on to a family who had children were it was well looked after ...you have a big opinion with sketchy facts

You and your mates / Top level multi billion pound Race Horse industrial breeding programs. They're not exactly the same thing are they?

Me and my big opinion sketchy backside may not share your view of the industry but I think there's very little you, or indeed your mates, could tell me that would lend credence to the idea that an overcrowded 30 fence race is done with the animal loving interests of horses at heart.

 

[ClausThomsen]

…yep, I think one horse lost his life in the big race which is one too many. I agree, it’s dreadful to see them falling like they did today. Sadly, the problems are caused by loose horses who carry on running and jumping without their jockey because that’s what they do.

The focus is always on Aintree who have modified the fences so the risk is nowhere near what it used to be. There will be nobody complaining at Bangor on Dee on a Monday or Exeter on a Wednesday.

The protestors are ignorant.

I could be wrong so apologies if so but didn't todays fatality fall at the first? How many loose horses are bombing around there? Or are the problems perhaps also caused by launching 39 horses at a big fence in a confined space?

Just because a risk isn't what it used to be doesn't mean it's not still an unnecessary risk. And the focus is on Aintree because it's so famous while at the same time being a pretty prolific provider of deaths. Protests, regardless of their cause, are by design aimed at maximising exposure. The most famous steeplechase in the world with huge TV coverage and crowds is going to garner that exposure.

 

[neil999]

Why are you protesting the most famous horce race?

 

[Gwlacticos]

I had the same bet for one of the grandchildren, how much would you get back for that

Mine says £28. Done it in Betfred

 

[Leylo]

I could be wrong so apologies if so but didn't todays fatality fall at the first? How many loose horses are bombing around there? Or are the problems perhaps also caused by launching 39 horses at a big fence in a confined space?

Just because a risk isn't what it used to be doesn't mean it's not still an unnecessary risk. And the focus is on Aintree because it's so famous while at the same time being a pretty prolific provider of deaths. Protests, regardless of their cause, are by design aimed at maximising exposure. The most famous steeplechase in the world with huge TV coverage and crowds is going to garner that exposure.

Glue yourself to the m57 that's the spirit...isn't glue animal based lol

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Glue yourself to the m57 that's the spirit...isn't glue animal based lol

Never heard of synthetic glue then.

 

[Mozza1987]

You might as well talk to the wall mate.

Why? I enjoy horse racing. First time I've not been to Aintree in years, I've been to Cheltenham and Haydock as well for jump racing. Not sure how anyone who actually cares about the horses thought that first lap of the track was painfully hard to watch today. Simple changes could reduce the risk so not sure why anyone would be against it to be honest. Wouldn't take anything away from the race either.