How much did Britain really win WW2?

[summerisle]

Don't forget about the contribution of Italy.

 

[degsy]

Isn’t the WW2 battleship (wreck) steel super valuable because it doesn’t have the contaminated isotopes that all steel since the first atomic bomb test have?

That's what I heard too

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[chicoazul]

This turned into a good thread really.

 

[Kurt.]

I read an interesting article that said for D-day they just unleashed Captain Tom and he went full savage.
Won the bloody war by himself.

A little known fact …. One of the German officers was named Henrik Zimmer…. Captain Tom single handedly rushed zimmer and beat him into submission using thin metal tubes, once beaten, Captain Tom forged a rudimentary cage out of said metal tubes and kept him as prisoner…. This is how the Zimmer frame was actually invented… and 60 years on captain Tom happily strolled around his garden showing off his invention. True story that….. maybe.

 

[PhilM]

We went into the war to protect Poland which got handed to Stalin maybe a worse dictator like Adolf ?
Hence the beginning of the Cold War
Now we have a scary situation in Ukraine.....

No we didn't. We knew, ultimately, that we'd be unable to protect Poland, but after the years of appeasement we'd vowed to not allow Hitler to stay unchallenged.

 

[DavidH]

A little known fact …. One of the German officers was named Henrik Zimmer…. Captain Tom single handedly rushed zimmer and beat him into submission using thin metal tubes, once beaten, Captain Tom forged a rudimentary cage out of said metal tubes and kept him as prisoner…. This is how the Zimmer frame was actually invented… and 60 years on captain Tom happily strolled around his garden showing off his invention. True story that….. maybe.

Henrik, not to be confused with his brother Hans who went on to do the Top Gun soundtrack.

 

[Kurt.]

Henrik, not to be confused with his brother Hans who went on to do the Top Gun soundtrack.

Unlike Henrik, he was not in the dangerzone

 

[Joey66]

No we didn't. We knew, ultimately, that we'd be unable to protect Poland, but after the years of appeasement we'd vowed to not allow Hitler to stay unchallenged.

We warned them the Nazis if they invaded Poland we would declare war against them - fact - when did we enter the war then ?

 

[DavidH]

Unlike Henrik, he was not in the dangerzone

"Take me on your might Zim, take me on your mighty Zim toniiiiiight"

 

[PhilM]

We warned them the Nazis if they invaded Poland we would declare war against them - fact - when did we enter the war then ?

But that's not the point you made. You mentioned that we went to war to protect Poland. Did we? We declared war as a response to the invasion of Poland.

While the French launched the Saar offensive, which should have been pushed on, we began to send the BEF to France from the 9th (eight days after war).

You might throw in a sporadic number of ineffective bombing raids and clashes with U-boats, but until December with the Graf Spee we didn't protect anyone...

...let alone Poland. We let Germany and Russia have their way with the sovereign nation, so as I said we declared war to challenge Hitler's plans in Europe.

The invasion of Poland was the catalyst for our action.

 

[Joey66]

But that's not the point you made. You mentioned that we went to war to protect Poland. Did we? We declared war as a response to the invasion of Poland.

While the French launched the Saar offensive, which should have been pushed on, we began to send the BEF to France from the 9th (eight days after war).

You might throw in a sporadic number of ineffective bombing raids and clashes with U-boats, but until December with the Graf Spee we didn't protect anyone...

...let alone Poland. We let Germany and Russia have their way with the sovereign nation, so as I said we declared war to challenge Hitler's plans in Europe.

The invasion of Poland was the catalyst for our action.

Splitting hairs here - the agreement to let the old USSR have Poland was against Churchill's wishes - the USA agreed to it after Stalin stated he would have elections to elect a Polish government - this never happened - view the History channel ..... FGS

 

[Joey66]

This turned into a good thread really.

You could cause a war in an empty house lol

 

[PhilM]

Splitting hairs here - the agreement to let the old USSR have Poland was against Churchill's wishes - the USA agreed to it after Stalin stated he would have elections to elect a Polish government - this never happened - view the History channel ..... FGS

It's not splitting hairs in the slightest. Did we join the war with the intention of protecting Poland from German aggression? Did we in any way protect Poland?

Or, did we join to help curb/stop the German militaristic aims shown since 1935? Talking about the Yalta conference in early '45 has no influence on the above, either.

 

[Joey66]

It's not splitting hairs in the slightest. Did we join the war with the intention of protecting Poland from German aggression? Did we in any way protect Poland?

Or, did we join to help curb/stop the German militaristic aims shown since 1935? Talking about the Yalta conference in early '45 has no influence on the above, either.

Yes we sent troops over there,but far too late as we were not geared up for a war being guaranteed by Hitler he would not invade any European country after stupidly giving him his old terrifies back from the first World War....without any conflict - waving bits of appeasement papers meant nothing ...