The Equaliser
Player Valuation: £50m
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How stupid are Manu?
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Get your head down and play for your team and let other things take care of themselves.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
Ah I see
http://www.theguardian.com/football...eal-madrid-manchester-united?CMP=share_btn_tw
Manchester United’s late attempt to finalise David de Gea’s transfer to Real Madrid ended in chaos and finger-pointing last night when the paperwork was not signed off in time at the end of a hectic and sometimes baffling day of transfer movement that also saw the Old Trafford club make Monaco’s Anthony Martial the most expensive teenager in world football.
De Gea’s paperwork was not filed before the midnight Spanish transfer deadline, with the goalkeeper described as “distraught” about the late twist to a remarkable day in which United also moved out Adnan Januzaj and Javier Hernández. Real were working into the early hours to try to persuade the Spanish authorities to let the deal happen but, whereas there are many examples of transfers being conducted after the deadline in England, stricter rules are applied in La Liga. Real are expected to try again on Tuesday by appealing to Fifa but at 2am in Spain the deal looked as if it had collapsed and there were reports blaming United for purportedly faxing one of the documents too late.
United are adamant they prepared everything with time to spare and that the blame should not be apportioned in their direction. United have a time-stamp on the various faxes, filed through Fifa’s Transfer Matching System to validate it was not their fault and clearly think Real are culpable for waiting so long to arrange a transfer that has been in the offing for several months.
Real, however, insist United are responsible and claim they received a vital fax at 11.59pm, leaving them with no time to submit it to the Liga de Fútbol Profesional. The document is understood to have been forwarded a minute past the deadline and, as such, De Gea was informed that the two clubs would have to abort the £29.3m player-plus-cash exchange involving Keylor Navas that had been agreed during the day.
That deal valued De Gea around £22m after United abandoned their original asking price of £33m in the face of Real’s deliberate negotiating tactic to leave it as late as possible. United had previously maintained they would not sell their goalkeeper and player of the year unless they received a record transfer fee for a goalkeeper – exceeding the £32.6m that Juventus paid for Gianluigi Buffon in 2001 – but with only hours remaining until the Spanish transfer window closed Madrid’s offer was considered better than the alternative of De Gea leaving as a free agent next summer.
Real’s tactic now appears to have backfired on them logistically because, even though the two clubs started talking on Monday morning, United were also involved in several other major pieces of business rather than devoting all their attention to one deal.
The most significant of them was the £36m deal for the 19-year-old Martial, with potential add-ons that could eventually take it above £50m, in another demonstration of the club’s extraordinary spending power. Martial is regarded as one of the more exciting young talents in French football, likened by some observers to a young Thierry Henry, but the price has surprised many of his admirers at other clubs. Tottenham had tried to sign him earlier in the summer for less than half of what United have paid and, for all the teenager’s potential, the shift in personnel represents a considerable gamble for his new club given that Wayne Rooney is now the only senior striker in Louis van Gaal’s squad.
Hernández has been sold to Bayer Leverkusen for £7.3m, despite Van Gaal stating two weeks ago that the Mexican would not be transferred, and Januzaj’s season-long loan at Borussia Dortmund means United’s attacking options have been diminished, rather than strengthened, unless there is another addition on Tuesday, the final day of the British window. If not, United will be more reliant than ever on Rooney, who turns 30 in October and has struggled to impress so far this season, apart from his hat-trick performance in the Champions League qualifying tie against Bruges last week. Martial made 48 appearances for Monaco last season, scoring 12 goals, and started playing as a central striker from March onwards. The teenager is a product of Lyon’s academy and moved to Monaco two years ago for an initial £3.5m. As part of that deal Lyon are due a percentage, thought to be as much as 25%, of any profit Monaco make on future transfers.
The swiftness of that deal contrasts wildly with the summer-long saga involving De Gea and it is a measure of Real’s negotiating ploys that the proposal involving Navas, lodged early on Monday, was their first official bid of the entire process.
Manchester United’s late attempt to finalise David de Gea’s transfer to Real Madrid ended in chaos and finger-pointing last night when the paperwork was not signed off in time at the end of a hectic and sometimes baffling day of transfer movement that also saw the Old Trafford club make Monaco’s Anthony Martial the most expensive teenager in world football.
De Gea’s paperwork was not filed before the midnight Spanish transfer deadline, with the goalkeeper described as “distraught” about the late twist to a remarkable day in which United also moved out Adnan Januzaj and Javier Hernández. Real were working into the early hours to try to persuade the Spanish authorities to let the deal happen but, whereas there are many examples of transfers being conducted after the deadline in England, stricter rules are applied in La Liga. Real are expected to try again on Tuesday by appealing to Fifa but at 2am in Spain the deal looked as if it had collapsed and there were reports blaming United for purportedly faxing one of the documents too late.
United are adamant they prepared everything with time to spare and that the blame should not be apportioned in their direction. United have a time-stamp on the various faxes, filed through Fifa’s Transfer Matching System to validate it was not their fault and clearly think Real are culpable for waiting so long to arrange a transfer that has been in the offing for several months.
Real, however, insist United are responsible and claim they received a vital fax at 11.59pm, leaving them with no time to submit it to the Liga de Fútbol Profesional. The document is understood to have been forwarded a minute past the deadline and, as such, De Gea was informed that the two clubs would have to abort the £29.3m player-plus-cash exchange involving Keylor Navas that had been agreed during the day.
That deal valued De Gea around £22m after United abandoned their original asking price of £33m in the face of Real’s deliberate negotiating tactic to leave it as late as possible. United had previously maintained they would not sell their goalkeeper and player of the year unless they received a record transfer fee for a goalkeeper – exceeding the £32.6m that Juventus paid for Gianluigi Buffon in 2001 – but with only hours remaining until the Spanish transfer window closed Madrid’s offer was considered better than the alternative of De Gea leaving as a free agent next summer.
Real’s tactic now appears to have backfired on them logistically because, even though the two clubs started talking on Monday morning, United were also involved in several other major pieces of business rather than devoting all their attention to one deal.
The most significant of them was the £36m deal for the 19-year-old Martial, with potential add-ons that could eventually take it above £50m, in another demonstration of the club’s extraordinary spending power. Martial is regarded as one of the more exciting young talents in French football, likened by some observers to a young Thierry Henry, but the price has surprised many of his admirers at other clubs. Tottenham had tried to sign him earlier in the summer for less than half of what United have paid and, for all the teenager’s potential, the shift in personnel represents a considerable gamble for his new club given that Wayne Rooney is now the only senior striker in Louis van Gaal’s squad.
Hernández has been sold to Bayer Leverkusen for £7.3m, despite Van Gaal stating two weeks ago that the Mexican would not be transferred, and Januzaj’s season-long loan at Borussia Dortmund means United’s attacking options have been diminished, rather than strengthened, unless there is another addition on Tuesday, the final day of the British window. If not, United will be more reliant than ever on Rooney, who turns 30 in October and has struggled to impress so far this season, apart from his hat-trick performance in the Champions League qualifying tie against Bruges last week. Martial made 48 appearances for Monaco last season, scoring 12 goals, and started playing as a central striker from March onwards. The teenager is a product of Lyon’s academy and moved to Monaco two years ago for an initial £3.5m. As part of that deal Lyon are due a percentage, thought to be as much as 25%, of any profit Monaco make on future transfers.
The swiftness of that deal contrasts wildly with the summer-long saga involving De Gea and it is a measure of Real’s negotiating ploys that the proposal involving Navas, lodged early on Monday, was their first official bid of the entire process.
One or two minutes they might have got away with - nearly 30 will be much harder to justify bending the laws for...
http://as.com/diarioas/2015/08/31/english/1441026081_347976.html
David de Gea will not play at Real Madrid - at least not at the start of the season. The contracts, which had been signed by the player, did not arrive at the LFP headquarters in time to be processed so as it stands, Keylor Navas will continue at Real Madrid and De Gea with United. Sources at the LFP confirmed that the documents sent by Real Madrid arrived at 00:28 CEST.
A total agreement between both clubs had been reached almost an hour earlier at 23:30. Real Madrid and Manchester United had agreed a 30 million euro fee for the transfer of David de Gea while Keylor would move in the opposite direction for 15 million. However, Keylor wanted to make modifications to his contract which meant that they were dispatched later than anticipated.
The two clubs started negotiating this morning but only started to make headway once United had secured Martial. Part of the operation hinged on Keylor accepting United's offer but the player was initially against a move to Old Trafford until he was eventually convinced by Van Gaal. It is understood that the bureaucratic formalities concerning the Costa Rican keeper’s transfer took longer than expected, and still hadn’t been resolved until well after De Gea’s transfer was closed.
But the documentation didn’t get to the LFP headquarters on time for De Gea to be registered, arriving 28 minutes after the transfer window had closed.
http://as.com/diarioas/2015/08/31/english/1441026081_347976.html
David de Gea will not play at Real Madrid - at least not at the start of the season. The contracts, which had been signed by the player, did not arrive at the LFP headquarters in time to be processed so as it stands, Keylor Navas will continue at Real Madrid and De Gea with United. Sources at the LFP confirmed that the documents sent by Real Madrid arrived at 00:28 CEST.
A total agreement between both clubs had been reached almost an hour earlier at 23:30. Real Madrid and Manchester United had agreed a 30 million euro fee for the transfer of David de Gea while Keylor would move in the opposite direction for 15 million. However, Keylor wanted to make modifications to his contract which meant that they were dispatched later than anticipated.
The two clubs started negotiating this morning but only started to make headway once United had secured Martial. Part of the operation hinged on Keylor accepting United's offer but the player was initially against a move to Old Trafford until he was eventually convinced by Van Gaal. It is understood that the bureaucratic formalities concerning the Costa Rican keeper’s transfer took longer than expected, and still hadn’t been resolved until well after De Gea’s transfer was closed.
But the documentation didn’t get to the LFP headquarters on time for De Gea to be registered, arriving 28 minutes after the transfer window had closed.
Don't think Utd have covered themselves with glory either....
@RafaelH117: As reported before, Real Madrid could still be hit with a transfer ban in 2016. If that happens De Gea won’t be able to sign until 2017.
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
lets be honest, real have had all summer to tie this up if they really wanted to. they shouldn't have left it 5 mins before the deadline. why were they faffing around with the navas deal? that could have been done today? they're now left with just one keeper.
and united have lost out on a reported £30m and will now lose him for free in 6 months. i always thought it strange why real were so desperate to do it this summer anyway. he'd clearly choose them over anyone else when available on a free and it's not as if their keepers are bad/needed anyway.
mind you, there are rumours of a transfer embargo?
and united have lost out on a reported £30m and will now lose him for free in 6 months. i always thought it strange why real were so desperate to do it this summer anyway. he'd clearly choose them over anyone else when available on a free and it's not as if their keepers are bad/needed anyway.
mind you, there are rumours of a transfer embargo?
flibbyflob
Player Valuation: £40m
Who cares, they get him for free next summer or cheaper in January.
rascal
Player Valuation: £60m
Transfer embargo would be hilarious, DDG wouldn't be able to go to them until the summer of 2017.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
so navas hasn't gone to united?
Brendan Janus
Player Valuation: £40m
You Man U, You !!
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