Howard

[Roztitute]

Stats this stats that, he has been total ****e this season. Unless that changes quickly we need a new keeper.

 

[bignev23]

I don`t need stats to tell me he`s been poor. I watch the match and use my eyes.

 

[ijjysmith]

I don`t need stats to tell me he`s been poor. I watch the match and use my eyes.

I wish you could go in goal

 

[Kay20]

If Mucha really is so bad that he's not even worthy of playing 1 game to even try and give Howard a kick up the ass then why the hell is he at the club? Either use him when your number 1 is gash or get rid of him, save his wage and use a youth keeper as emergency reserve.

Fair. Very, very fair.

 

[steken1]

1 game. If he's gash and concedes crappy goals then we're as we were with Howard. If he's good we get a decent keeper and Howard works hard in training at saving balls and avoiding goalposts. Doesn't make sense not to use him for one game.

Agree completely. Mucha cannot be so bad that he would certainly cost us a game. If he turns out to be so much worse Howard is motivated and ready to go back in.

As I've said right through this thread I'm not that fussed with Howards clangers, though there a bit too frequent these past 3 seasons, it's his lack of proper communication with the CB's, poor positional sense and lack of bravery that makes me want rid. I haven't really ever rated him. I'd love us to replace him ASAP.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Fair. Very, very fair.

We all know its not Moyes way though, he'd rather stick with what he knows and hope Howard gets through this. Which was alright for a bit but its not just a poor run of form like it might be with say a striker, he's just doing things a Premier league keeper should never do regardless of form.

He's like a nervous kid who got made to go in goal but hates it with some of his attempts at saves this season.

 

[Kay20]

We all know its not Moyes way though, he'd rather stick with what he knows and hope Howard gets through this. Which was alright for a bit but its not just a poor run of form like it might be with say a striker, he's just doing things a Premier league keeper should never do regardless of form.

He's like a nervous kid who got made to go in goal but hates it with some of his attempts at saves this season.

Moyes seems at the end of his rope lately though - maybe a change is coming? He is calling him out, and there's the Butland search...so...maybe? I'm not willing to say no change like usual. I think something might be bubbling - wouldn't surprise me to see Mucha for sure.

 

[billycopper]

Those are only the stats for this year though, right? Just curious. I believe his stats in the previous years were much better from what I remember posted.

We could possibly be on the coat tails of City for a bunch of reasons - Tim definitely being one of them. Jelavic scoring would be another, or Osman hitting the target another. Mirallas not going down...etc. Don't think it's fair to pin that one only on Tim...though man has he contributed this year. More than in previous years for sure. No excuses. A few points are definitely pinned right to his bald little head. And trust me, he knows it.

Yeah the stats do just illustrate current form. A couple of years ago I was saying that I thought he was burnt out from playing international tournaments every year for about 5 years. He has played 200 consecutive games for us too. When you think that Wenger and Rodgers are saying that their players are mentally drained after 16 games it stands to reason that Howard must be feeling it too. I imagine that suffering from Tourette's must be pretty tiring as well.

Ideally I think we need someone a bit younger than Tim who Moyes would trust to play in the Premier League. We could then hopefully get the best out of both of them through rotation. Howard is bound to have dips in form but there is no choice but to play through them at the moment because Mucha would only get a game in an emergency.

 

[steken1]

BS

Just my opinion, like.

Fair Do's. IMO he punches when he can catch, gets outmuscled by players who get in his face from set pieces, clings to his line when he should come and clatter the forwards and dives behind his line instead of across it to avoid impacts with the goalposts and is ridiculously indecisive when coming off his line for through balls. The exact opposite of the top keepers.

Cowardice in footballing terms I should have added.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Moyes seems at the end of his rope lately though - maybe a change is coming? He is calling him out, and there's the Butland search...so...maybe? I'm not willing to say no change like usual. I think something might be bubbling - wouldn't surprise me to see Mucha for sure.

Still a long way from actually doing something though, they don't call him ditehring Dave for nothing you know smart moneys on Howard still being number 1 come May.

 

[Kay20]

Yeah the stats do just illustrate current form. A couple of years ago I was saying that I thought he was burnt out from playing international tournaments every year for about 5 years. He has played 200 consecutive games for us too. When you think that Wenger and Rodgers are saying that their players are mentally drained after 16 games it stands to reason that Howard must be feeling it too. I imagine that suffering from Tourette's must be pretty tiring as well.

Ideally I think we need someone a bit younger than Tim who Moyes would trust to play in the Premier League. We could then hopefully get the best out of both of them through rotation. Howard is bound to have dips in form but there is no choice but to play through them at the moment because Mucha would only get a game in an emergency.

Solid points. Mental tiredness could definitely be factoring in, especially with the fact that he is literally our last stand in so many of those international games he plays. Automatic starter. Won't change either - he has WC qualifying this year, WC next year (hopefully), Gold Cup year after that, and then a potential combined Copa Americas the year after that. So essentially he's entering into another period with an international tourney every year. Brad Guzan is pushing him though - so will be interesting to see how that shapes up.

Fair Do's. IMO he punches when he can catch, gets outmuscled by players who get in his face from set pieces, clings to his line when he should come and clatter the forwards and dives behind his line instead of across it to avoid impacts with the goalposts and is ridiculously indecisive when coming off his line for through balls. The exact opposite of the top keepers.

Cowardice in footballing terms I should have added.

I don't agree with chunks of your list, but to each his own.

 

[steken1]

Solid points. Mental tiredness could definitely be factoring in, especially with the fact that he is literally our last stand in so many of those international games he plays. Automatic starter. Won't change either - he has WC qualifying this year, WC next year, Gold Cup year after that, and then a potential combined Copa Americas the year after that. So essentially he's entering into another period with an international tourney every year. Brad Guzan is pushing him though - so will be interesting to see how that shapes up.



I don't agree with chunks of your list, but to each his own.

No worries, just wanted to explain my reasoning.

 

[Garbaggio]

Howard is not a standout in every performance for the US team. He makes saves he should make for the most part. Sometimes he makes routine saves look like world class saves due to the fact he compensates for poor positioning with quick reflexes. US fans have a complex about their keepers being the best in the world going back to the late 90's- probably due to the fact that 20 years ago only US keepers had managed to make it to the highest level.

e.g.- Recently in a qualifier versus Guatemala he gave a up a very poor rebound and had to improvise with a last-ditch kick save to keep out a shot that he shouldn't have given up in the first place and you could see afterward that he was angry and embarrassed with himself while the US fans behind his goal chanted his name in reverence.

He is a decent keeper having a bad year.

 

[ijjysmith]

 

[DanEFC92]

We used to have Turner and Ruddy, Ruddy turned out ace. We now have Springthorpe and Taudal (not sure if i'm missing other keepers), are they any good/show any promise?