'Howard's Way' Film

[Chris O'Connor]

This is why people need to stop getting sucked in to the attempts to go off topic. A relevant question here has been ignored.

You can find it here mate:

Amazon product ASIN B07ZLSN16S

Or on Sky on demand

 

[Chris O'Connor]

The biggest regret for me in that era besides the league cup and United cup final losses, more than made up for with league titles, an FA cup win and the European Cup Winners Cup, was the repercussions of the Heysel ban. The way we were so singularly and massively punished for something which had nothing to do with us. The chance to dominate Europe as a blanket ban on all English clubs was introduced.

(As pretty much every English club winning the league did in those days - days when winning the European Cup the season after was a mere formality for the league chsmpions as only league winners entered it.

Aston Villa won the European Cup at the first time of asking in their first ever European Cup campaign, , as did Nottingham Forest, only two seasons after being 2nd Division winners, and who then went one better repeating the feat in their second one too. Liverpool won most of their European Cups at a time when English clubs won every year - far easier to win when only champions of Finland, Sweden etc entered and only one team from stronger nations Germany, Italy)

It was especially poignant when Pat van den Hauwe just couldn't bring himself to even comment on the injustice, obviously just still too affected by it all, the players possibly had their chance of being household names throughout Europe just cruelly snatched away by events beyond their control, and the ban must have been an influence on Howard leaving for Spain a year or two later too following our second league title win.

- tbh I thought the second championship win was only commented on right at the end, virtually as an afterthought and the contributions of the likes of Wayne Clarke etc in that win just ignored.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

Tbh the film brought tears of joy and anguish to my eyes, and whilst I know many reds I’ll never forgive them as a group, or the new snide ones who have written this off.
It’s often forgotten the same English fans were in Rotterdam the week before and never caused an issue.
But as above I genuinely feel for those players who were great together and never got to be household names - however I will always know how good they were and the pride and passion it Broughton me
NSNO

 

[lesbattersby]

Watched it last night and thought it was just OK, my biggest gripe being the film was called Howard's way but had next to nothing of the great man himself, it had more of that odd fella with glasses.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

Watched it last night and thought it was just OK, my biggest gripe being the film was called Howard's way but had next to nothing of the great man himself, it had more of that odd fella with glasses.

Yes tbf I didn't go overboard on it either even though they were great times, not enough on the manager and the football - especially the second championship win and far too much on Derek Hatton and non football trivia that wasn't particularly relevant unless making a social documentary

It was Howard's Way for goodness sake not a Merseyside in the 80's study.

 

[StreetEndBlue]

It really should've had a bit more on the 86/87 season. Us winning the title that season, and by 9 points, was a bigger achievement than in 1985 for me.

Big Nev didn't come back until October, Gary Stevens missed a fair chunk of the season, Peter Reid and Pat Van Den Hauwe didn't kick a ball until February, Paul Bracewell missed the entire season, Graeme Sharp missed around a third of it plus Gary Lineker had just left so Howard did a marvelous job in steering us to the title with so many problems regarding player availability.

In 1984/85 we could play pretty much a settled side as Adrian Heath was our only long term injury casualty that season.

 

[Billy Dean]

"So glad I played with most of them".

I wonder if that's some kind of veiled barb at someone in the film.

 

[Phil86]

"So glad I played with most of them".

I wonder if that's some kind of veiled barb at someone in the film.

I imagine he just meant he didn’t play with Andy Gray or others who were pivotal in the seasons either side of his one with us. That’s how I’ve interpreted it anyway.

 

[Billy Dean]

I imagine he just meant he didn’t play with Andy Gray or others who were pivotal in the seasons either side of his one with us. That’s how I’ve interpreted it anyway.

Ah yes, didn't think of that.

 

[Billy Dean]

When I'm 60 I hope I can be as handsome as Pat van den Hauwe

 

[NeilA1878]

Ah yes, didn't think of that.

I dont think Southall and him get along, I remember reading a while ago

 

[Chris O'Connor]

I dont think Southall and him get along, I remember reading a while ago

Yes could possibly imagine those two might clash a little (I don't know if they actually did though), two strong characters.

 

[Billy Dean]

Andy Gray got very emotional talking about the day he was sold. Never seen him like that.

Really enjoyed the film. I wish they talked more about 87 but overall I thought it was great.

Funniest part probably when Sheeds and Reidy are talking about that double free kick against Ipswich.

For anyone who can remember, how much did Inchy decline as a player after his injury? My first season supporting Everton was 86/87 and I remember thinking he was boss then but was only 6/7 so probably don’t remember that well

 

[Sunny Rhyl]

I was invited by a friend to play in a match at Goodison which he bid for at a fundraising event at the end of the 2016/17 season. Big Nev was our manager and Pat played for the other team. They definately got on.

 

[zzebra]

Looking around for something to watch last night I was chuffed to find this hidden away for free on the documentary section of NOW TVs entertainment pass.

Great film and great memories. I didn't realise what a nice bloke Van Den Hauwe was! Didn't recognise Bailey at first, he looks so different now. Can probably say the same about myself!