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2018/19 Idrissa Gueye

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CRIMHEAD said:
I love Gana, think he's about our best player, but when the other team packs it in, Gomes can sit back and be the deeper central mid. It would probably be better to have someone with a bit more impetus. That being said, I could also see us giving the ball away and getting picked off going backwards. Davies might have been interesting today, his work rate and movement might've helped.
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How is he? Seriously...

I keep reading and hearing this. He is BANG average. The most overrated player in the squad by a mile, and people just excuse him all the time. He gives the ball away regularly, and his passing is diabolical. Even when he finds his intended target, its often slow, bobbling or behind the player, so it's next to useless. So many times he gets it, gives it straight back, and if he doesn't, he invariably takes too long on the ball.

He is at very best a hard working plodder, and you only have to look at Gomes to see what a real, PL CM can and should be able to do. He's been in this league for about 5/6 games, Gueye for 4 years.

I honestly would love to be able to see what these others see, the ones who say about how he's a joy to watch etc. But I don't. And I never have. He has the occasional good game, usually when we play well. And that's the difference. Really good players make teams play better by being there. He only plays well when everyone else does.

It honestly baffles me how this lad gets the plaudits he does, when Mccarthy got slated for doing basically the exact same thing, but more efficiently. It must be the red hair, it's the only thing I can think of.
 
Kever10 said:
How is he? Seriously...

I keep reading and hearing this. He is BANG average. The most overrated player in the squad by a mile, and people just excuse him all the time. He gives the ball away regularly, and his passing is diabolical. Even when he finds his intended target, its often slow, bobbling or behind the player, so it's next to useless. So many times he gets it, gives it straight back, and if he doesn't, he invariably takes too long on the ball.

He is at very best a hard working plodder, and you only have to look at Gomes to see what a real, PL CM can and should be able to do. He's been in this league for about 5/6 games, Gueye for 4 years.

I honestly would love to be able to see what these others see, the ones who say about how he's a joy to watch etc. But I don't. And I never have. He has the occasional good game, usually when we play well. And that's the difference. Really good players make teams play better by being there. He only plays well when everyone else does.

It honestly baffles me how this lad gets the plaudits he does, when Mccarthy got slated for doing basically the exact same thing, but more efficiently. It must be the red hair, it's the only thing I can think of.
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he is nowhere near our best player, but has gathered himself a fanclub that won't accept any criticism of him
 

I understand the love for Gana but i understand the 'hate' for him too. As others have said, wasted against a park the bus side but great against a positive team that needs stifling.
My biggest gripe is his constant attempts to score from outside the box when we really need him to play a pass to someone who knows what they are doing.
Every time i see him shoot the ball goes well wide or well over. Not sure i have ever seen him hit a clean one yet. He wastes so many good attacking opportunities & its really winding me up now, especially since we are struggling for goals as it is.
 
Stephen Gibson said:
I understand the love for Gana but i understand the 'hate' for him too. As others have said, wasted against a park the bus side but great against a positive team that needs stifling.
My biggest gripe is his constant attempts to score from outside the box when we really need him to play a pass to someone who knows what they are doing.
Every time i see him shoot the ball goes well wide or well over. Not sure i have ever seen him hit a clean one yet. He wastes so many good attacking opportunities & its really winding me up now, especially since we are struggling for goals as it is.
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Could you not say that about all our players?

We have improved from the last few years but our decision making is still awful.
 
Kever10 said:
How is he? Seriously...

I keep reading and hearing this. He is BANG average. The most overrated player in the squad by a mile, and people just excuse him all the time. He gives the ball away regularly, and his passing is diabolical. Even when he finds his intended target, its often slow, bobbling or behind the player, so it's next to useless. So many times he gets it, gives it straight back, and if he doesn't, he invariably takes too long on the ball.

He is at very best a hard working plodder, and you only have to look at Gomes to see what a real, PL CM can and should be able to do. He's been in this league for about 5/6 games, Gueye for 4 years.

I honestly would love to be able to see what these others see, the ones who say about how he's a joy to watch etc. But I don't. And I never have. He has the occasional good game, usually when we play well. And that's the difference. Really good players make teams play better by being there. He only plays well when everyone else does.

It honestly baffles me how this lad gets the plaudits he does, when Mccarthy got slated for doing basically the exact same thing, but more efficiently. It must be the red hair, it's the only thing I can think of.
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Said the same for 12 month. And the people saying he has good passing stats. I would if I passed it back or square 90% of the time.

That pass to digne in 2nd half was embarrassing. He has time to control and look up, Digne on his own 20 yards from the Newcastle box, and gana puts it on the Newcastle’s full backs head on the edge of the box. Digne had sprint to go for the ball, he won the header but put it out for a goal kick.

And that effort on goal was shocking, let’s hope PSG weren’t watching his last 2 games.
 
Idrissa Gueye
Overview
Stats
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ClubEvertonPositionMidfielder
Premier League Record
label.tablePlayerRecords
Appearances 115
Goals 3
Assists 3
Appearances
115
Goals
3
Wins
35
Losses
51
Attack
Goals 3
Goals per match 0.03
Headed goals 0
Goals with right foot 3
Goals with left foot 0
Penalties scored 0
Freekicks scored 0
Shots 84
Shots on target 18
Shooting accuracy % 21%
Hit woodwork 2
Big chances missed 3
Team Play
Assists 3
Passes 6,087
Passes per match 52.93
Big chances created 3
Crosses 42
Cross accuracy % 24%
Through balls 6
Accurate long balls 301
Discipline
Yellow cards 30
Red cards 1
Fouls 191
Offsides 2
Defence
Tackles 458
Tackle success % 74%
Blocked shots 27
Interceptions 318
Clearances 130
Headed Clearance 46
Recoveries 979
Duels won 865
Duels lost 594
Successful 50/50s 123
Aerial battles won 110
Aerial battles lost 91
Errors leading to goal
Stephenlloyd said:
Said the same for 12 month. And the people saying he has good passing stats. I would if I passed it back or square 90% of the time.

That pass to digne in 2nd half was embarrassing. He has time to control and look up, Digne on his own 20 yards from the Newcastle box, and gana puts it on the Newcastle’s full backs head on the edge of the box. Digne had sprint to go for the ball, he won the header but put it out for a goal kick.

And that effort on goal was shocking, let’s hope PSG weren’t watching his last 2 games.
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Stats pulled from Premier League website. His shooting accuracy is 21%.
 
Stephen Gibson said:
Idrissa Gueye
Overview
Stats
More
ClubEvertonPositionMidfielder
Premier League Record
label.tablePlayerRecords
Appearances 115
Goals 3
Assists 3
Appearances
115
Goals
3
Wins
35
Losses
51
Attack
Goals 3
Goals per match 0.03
Headed goals 0
Goals with right foot 3
Goals with left foot 0
Penalties scored 0
Freekicks scored 0
Shots 84
Shots on target 18
Shooting accuracy % 21%
Hit woodwork 2
Big chances missed 3
Team Play
Assists 3
Passes 6,087
Passes per match 52.93
Big chances created 3
Crosses 42
Cross accuracy % 24%
Through balls 6
Accurate long balls 301
Discipline
Yellow cards 30
Red cards 1
Fouls 191
Offsides 2
Defence
Tackles 458
Tackle success % 74%
Blocked shots 27
Interceptions 318
Clearances 130
Headed Clearance 46
Recoveries 979
Duels won 865
Duels lost 594
Successful 50/50s 123
Aerial battles won 110
Aerial battles lost 91
Errors leading to goal
Stats pulled from Premier League website. His shooting accuracy is 21%.
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So he’s created 3 chances in a 115 games, if Ive read that right. WOW 1 a season
 

Stephen Gibson said:
I understand the love for Gana but i understand the 'hate' for him too. As others have said, wasted against a park the bus side but great against a positive team that needs stifling.
My biggest gripe is his constant attempts to score from outside the box when we really need him to play a pass to someone who knows what they are doing.
Every time i see him shoot the ball goes well wide or well over. Not sure i have ever seen him hit a clean one yet. He wastes so many good attacking opportunities & its really winding me up now, especially since we are struggling for goals as it is.
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Agree with much of your post,but didn't he bury one last season at Huddersfield.
 
Can't underestimate the job Gana does, if he has an off day it's very noticeable, he really is a top quality DM, if he was better with his distribution then he'd be kante wouldn't he. that's why his partnership with Gomes is looking great as they just compliment each other well in my opinion.
 
Kever10 said:
How is he? Seriously...

I keep reading and hearing this. He is BANG average. The most overrated player in the squad by a mile, and people just excuse him all the time. He gives the ball away regularly, and his passing is diabolical. Even when he finds his intended target, its often slow, bobbling or behind the player, so it's next to useless. So many times he gets it, gives it straight back, and if he doesn't, he invariably takes too long on the ball.

He is at very best a hard working plodder, and you only have to look at Gomes to see what a real, PL CM can and should be able to do. He's been in this league for about 5/6 games, Gueye for 4 years.

I honestly would love to be able to see what these others see, the ones who say about how he's a joy to watch etc. But I don't. And I never have. He has the occasional good game, usually when we play well. And that's the difference. Really good players make teams play better by being there. He only plays well when everyone else does.

It honestly baffles me how this lad gets the plaudits he does, when Mccarthy got slated for doing basically the exact same thing, but more efficiently. It must be the red hair, it's the only thing I can think of.
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Have you ever considered that it’s because he’s playing well that the others play well
Maybe when he does his job well it frees up Gomes to spread his sexiness all over the pitch and the full backs to get forward
 

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